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  1. #491
    Player Soundwave's Avatar
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    Give me a situation and I'll test it for you.

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    Did we say if the hate goes to the summoner or the avatar?

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    Well got a bunch of mobs, used Shocksquall as soon as stun was off, they attack Ramuh once and went for me. Only hate I had was the dia from the mobs and the summoning of Ramuh to use shocksquall.
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    Last edited by Soundwave; 08-31-2011 at 01:32 PM.

    Hail to the king baby, Sig by Kingfury

  2. #492
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    I'm assuming hate goes to avatar. I don't know if the tables are still accurate, but it looks like /blu is the way to go. Otherwise you may need a WHM. Keep in mind I am no expert.

    http://kanican.livejournal.com/20380.html

    MP drainkiss is 320 CE, 0 VE.

    Tests on some L1 critter (I think):

    1) Stunga pull, use pollen on self a couple times to see if enmity switches back to SMN. If so, it's all VE. (I think at this point you'd need help)
    2) Stunga pull one mob, see how many times you can MP Drainkiss. CE < 320 x # of casts
    3) Stunga pull 2 mobs, see if CE is the same on multiple mobs.

    That's all I can think of. A less civilized test would be Stunga > whack with stick until it turns > add up damage.
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    OK scratch that... sounds like 0 enmity lol. Medic!
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  4. #494
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    Didn't see if anyone mentioned it yet, but looks like SE is also nerfing Elemental Siphon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raleg View Post
    Didn't see if anyone mentioned it yet, but looks like SE is also nerfing Elemental Siphon.
    <huh!?> What do you mean, in what way is it nerfed?
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  6. #496
    Player Raleg's Avatar
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    Less mp returned. On normal servers i get a return of 504 when using element of same day, on test server its 466.
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    I thought that at first, but when I tried it my results were more abysmally obvious (but, it was before I realized that the moogle had screwed up my Summoning Magic Skill and for some reason it was at 55)

    Are you positive your SMN skill was capped when you got the bad results?
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    Yeah, i double checked, had 454 smn skill and +20 elemental siphon augmented Tatsumaki sitagoromo in both instances.
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  9. #499
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    I saw nothing wrong with Elemental Siphon.
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    Hail to the king baby, Sig by Kingfury

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    I've done it 30+ times now, all with the same result.
    I am getting the same numbers at level 95 on test server as I do at 90 on regular though.
    Are you saying you're getting increased numbers on test server?
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    Last edited by Raleg; 08-31-2011 at 10:49 PM.

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