Thoughts on the FFXI Job Adjustment Manifesto

[Sotek]

Can you actually get to Lv.95 on the test server? I'd be interested in hearing if Sublimation gets another tic, since it's looking like that's all we really can get this update.
Also, whats the Haste like on Embrava? Or is it even Haste, I've had a nagging suspicion that it could be -Delay, in which case one or two of those Regain tics are possibly there just to cover the loss in TP gain from -Delay. If that's the case I can't say I'm pleased with my Regen V and still less than apt as Tactician's Roll Regain. Not as 2Hour spells, anyway.

Furthermore with some more help from Google Translate, I was able to see on the forums that a very well-geared JP player was able to do 1.3k dmg with it, so it's not completely disappointing if the DoT is per tick and not once every 10 seconds as with helices.

That's still disappointing. That's not even tIV damage, sure we can AoE it but I've been hearing 4~6k damage from Black Mages new -ja, so unless the slip damage that they've neglected to add is damn amazing I really am disappointed. These are two hour spells for crying out loud. They cost 30% of our maximum MP pool. What the fuck is this shit? People were pissed off with Odin and Alexander, but at least Alexander did something useful. Another two spells to add to Scholars list of not worth the MP it costs to cast spells.

[Eric]

Yeah you can get to level 95, but the quest for the limit break is in JP so you have to use the Test Server Moogle to manually set your level to 95.

As for haste, I'm not sure how to go about testing for that, but I will try my best. I forgot to mention that Embrava's HP regen is 40 hp/tic, and the spell lasts somewhere around 5~7 minutes and can be used with perpetuance.

By the way, you can use parsimony with both Kaustra and Enbrava and conserve MP can proc. The recast time for each spell confused me because I think they vary by level, but again, I didn't have much time to do all of the testing last night. I will update you guys more later today.

Edit: Turns out HP regen for Embrava is 40 hp/tic. Still only double Regen III.

[Sotek]

Well, Parsimony makes it better I guess, Empyrean legs practically gives up Manafont and at least Stratagem use doesn't particularly matter under Tabula.

Still, can't say I'm pleased. When people have been asking for a Curative Helix - which would do at least 100HP/tic - and under 2Hour we only get 36HP/tic? Yeah.... Not looking hopeful right now. These might as well be under Addendum for all I can tell. Sure they're slightly overpowered in regards to other spells, but Stratagem use is going to matter without Tabula so theres the massive drawback. They are no where near the level of Odin or Alexander, so I cant really see why they're 2Hour only.

[Merton9999]

Yeah you can get to level 95, but the quest for the limit break is in JP so you have to use the Test Server Moogle to manually set your level to 95.

As for haste, I'm not sure how to go about testing for that, but I will try my best. I forgot to mention that Embrava's HP regen is 40 hp/tic, and the spell lasts somewhere around 5~7 minutes and can be used with perpetuance.

By the way, you can use parsimony with both Kaustra and Enbrava and conserve MP can proc. The recast time for each spell confused me because I think they vary by level, but again, I didn't have much time to do all of the testing last night. I will update you guys more later today.

Edit: Turns out HP regen for Embrava is 40 hp/tic. Still only double Regen III.

Does Embrava stack with Adloquium, Haste and Regen? If so, given its use under TR, we could also apply those three for a total of 63 HP (?), 5 TP, and extra Haste. I'm still underwhelmed for a 2-hour even if it does stack. If it doesn't stack, I'm exiling Embrava to lolLand with nearly everything else 76-90. Also, is the 5-7 minutes with perpetuance or without? I.E. are we looking at 12.5-17.5 minutes functionally?

The 1358 number seems like what you'd get with MAB atma and some high INT/MAB accessories over just your AF3+2 numbers. What would sell Merton to me as a 2-hour would be triple that, and a faster tick than helices. The fact that it isn't giving a DoT is disturbing, if not a bug, since it was highlighted as a major feature and anticipated for pearl farming. Please not another overpromise, underdeliver occasion for SCH - I'm seriously at my limit.

EDIT:
OK I'm going to reserve judgment for a while. This post is showing very different Merton numbers, with atma, and a DoT effect:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...austra-Testing

Either they're changing this with patches or it's buggy. That post sounds a lot better.

[TimeMage]

On alla they said Embrava is 38 regen, 4 regain, and around 33% haste, with a 5 min duration. If that's the case... I think the spell is pretty good. On top of that, it seems like it has its own icon, meaning that it stacks with other buffs, namely normal haste. That means 12.5 mins of very buffed melees, which is really nice for fights that can't be zerged but benefit from increased damage output. Let's say it's only 30% haste, that plus 15% haste spell plus 25% haste from gear is 70% haste, plus Hasso or Haste Samba (Hasso more realistic in the situations you'd 2Hr) is capped haste for a LOT of time. Yeah, yeah, BRD can get to I think 23% haste without 2H with two songs... But it gives us a decent niche in tough NMs.

Kaustra on the other hand... ;_; With magian staff, good atmas and good nuking gear it should do at least 6k per mob per cast to be worthwile.

[Eric]

EDIT:
OK I'm going to reserve judgment for a while. This post is showing very different Merton numbers, with atma, and a DoT effect:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...austra-Testing

Either they're changing this with patches or it's buggy. That post sounds a lot better.

I'm curious to see this guy's gear. I've asked several other SCH that were online, but none of them have reported those high numbers.

To be fair, none of those people play SCH as their main job at level 90(including me, the last time I played SCH 90 was before I deleted my old char), so I think it may all have to do with equipment/atma.

EDIT: By comparison, my gear is at the point where it is doing 1800~2000 dmg with Blizzard V and Fire V on Flamingos in Tu'Lia, while Kaustra was still doing the same amount of damage. It's probably highly dependent on MAB or something, because I cap out at around the same damage no matter what mob I use it on.

http://i52.tinypic.com/qqzl6p.png

EDIT #2: Here is a picture of Kaustra on Flamingos, and of another SCH telling me how much damage he was able to do.

http://i51.tinypic.com/30l0w83.png

EDIT #3: Embrava seems to give 30% haste and doesn't affect TP gained (therefore it's not just weapon delay reduction). It also stacks with Adloquium and Haste. Not sure if it counts for the magic haste cap.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2d7zj3k.png <-(Hearing this comment from a JP nearly made me spit my water out)

Edit #4: Kaustra doesn't work with Immanence. You can, however, magic burst it. Also, it wears off when you die. . . Hopefully the translation team will fix the text.
http://i55.tinypic.com/dg1lq8.png (The Flamingo is no longer Kaustra.)
http://i56.tinypic.com/wclaox.png (Immanence X)
http://i56.tinypic.com/b6amb8.png (Magic Burst O)

[Ahrana]

On alla they said Embrava is 38 regen, 4 regain, and around 33% haste, with a 5 min duration. If that's the case... I think the spell is pretty good. On top of that, it seems like it has its own icon, meaning that it stacks with other buffs, namely normal haste. That means 12.5 mins of very buffed melees, which is really nice for fights that can't be zerged but benefit from increased damage output. Let's say it's only 30% haste, that plus 15% haste spell plus 25% haste from gear is 70% haste, plus Hasso or Haste Samba (Hasso more realistic in the situations you'd 2Hr) is capped haste for a LOT of time. Yeah, yeah, BRD can get to I think 23% haste without 2H with two songs... But it gives us a decent niche in tough NMs.

I'm making the assumption that this counts against your magic haste, in which case it caps at just over 43%. It's better then nothing, and I'm hoping it ends up being better then it looks on paper.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Just checked on the test server it appears all jobs get Klimaform if they're /SCH surely as it's SCH's artifact weapon (so to speak) it should be blocked..

Would you report that in the Test Server bugs section?

[Eric]

I don't think it's a bug.

[Raksha]

Just checked on the test server it appears all jobs get Klimaform if they're /SCH surely as it's SCH's artifact weapon (so to speak) it should be blocked..

Would you report that in the Test Server bugs section?

Somehow i'm not surprised.