Easier Payment Options (08/23/2011)

[Romanova]

Well, unless they put the notice on the NA site, it is indeed "only for the euros."

so clearly, you were wrong in stating it doesn't disappear, as it does, even if it is Euro. Believe it or not, they matter to.

But even for you, no it is not relevant, because you still have another year before it supposedly expires, and they will implement this system long before that.

Did you not read what I wrote? this new system said no where about getting rid of the expiration date, and I am going to wow for dw raid among other things meaning that $60 is disappearing as I probably wouldn't play ffxi or ffxiv within the next year.

This system isn't going to change anything about me only having 1 year left, and me not using it.

You said you can admit when you're wrong, clearly you can't.

[edit] since you edited yours,

but for FFXI you will most certainly not be losing out on any money as long as you have already chosen Crysta as your payment method.

I'd love you to explain how I won't lose the $60 when I'm not currently pay for ffxi OR ffxiv, and probably won't for the next year making it reach the 2 year mark.

[Maacha]

I'm not really interested in paying for 7 months in advance, though. Do you know if it's a flat fee or based on the amount of the transfer?

Not exactly a flat fee... here's what I got when I chose $50
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and $20
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/g...d59bc64a58.jpg

[Alhanelem]

Did you not read what I wrote? this new system said no where about getting rid of the expiration date

They don't need to say anything about the expiration date. Once you can pay exact amounts, there will be no extra Crysta on your account, and thus nothing to be lost/expired.

And again, the NA site makes no mention of an expiration date, which tells me the crysta rules/system are region specific. Perhaps EU countries might require that virtual currency have an expiration date or something. I don't know, I didn't make the system.

Maacha: at the $10 level and below, there was no fee. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but I'll roll with it

I'd love you to explain how I won't lose the $60 when I'm not currently pay for ffxi OR ffxiv, and probably won't for the next year making it reach the 2 year mark.

Why did you put money on your account, knowing it has an expiration date when you weren't paying for anything in the first place? Since they weren't charging for FFXIV and never did, why didn't you wait to pay until they said they were going to start charging?

[Romanova]

They don't need to say anything about the expiration date. Once you can pay exact amounts, there will be no extra Crysta on your account, and thus nothing to be lost/expired.

you fail at reading comprehension. Let me try to break it down for you;

1. I boought $60 worth of crysta last year for husband and I.

2. ffxiv never went p2p so that crysta sat there for a year.

3. Blizz announced DW raid

4. we cancelled our accounts before any crysta was taken out

5. that $60 worth of crysta is still sitting there

6. there is a 99% possibility we will have no desire to play ffxi OR ffxiv in the next year.

7. that $60 will expire.

8. we lose $60

9. you are wrong

[Orlind]

I'm glad to hear that S-E has finally made an announcement in regards to the concerns made and what they plan to do. It will be nice to continue paying with my credit card instead of buying Crysta for a bit longer.

However, I do hope they implement everything as intended without any problems as I am being charged a bit extra no matter what I use besides my credit card directly.

Click and Buy has their fees as we all know and from my professional experiences with them, I know they are not to be trusted.

With UltimatePay, they want to do the currency conversion instead of letting my bank do it but they end up charging more even though CDN is worth more USD at the moment. I do understand no institution will do a conversion in real-time and have their own rates but UP's rate seems to be higher than my bank.

And this is even before the issue of Crysta so I do hope everything goes smoothly so S-E had promised things would be more streamlined with regards to the payment system.

[Alhanelem]

you fail at reading comprehension.

I do not. You never said you weren't playing the game until now. Since you already have the money in the "bank," Why not just play now, and solve all your problems?

//only half-serious, because I recognize your reason for not playing/quitting is different from many others

8. we lose $60

9. you are wrong

I'm not wrong. But maybe if you complain enough, they'll remove the expiration date. Given the announcement made today, I don't find that to be out of the question considering they should know full well that some people put Crysta on their accounts when FFXIV came out.

until you posted the 1 2 3 4 crap, I was under the impression that you were playing the game; Posting here when you haven't played the game in over a year is an anomaly as far as I can tell.

[Romanova]

Why did you put money on your account, knowing it has an expiration date when you weren't paying for anything in the first place? Since they weren't charging for FFXIV and never did, why didn't you wait to pay until they said they were going to start charging?

If you played the headstart of FFXIV, they didn't mention the lack of having to pay until about 3 days before the game was supposed to go live. When we first got the game we figured we'd be playing for about 2 months, so bought the money. We put the money in before they told us we weren't going to need it. So we got screwed because we aren't slackers.

There was no way to know they were going to change it to an eternal beta at the time.

[Alhanelem]

Then perhaps you should put in a ticket at SE support and see if you can get any information out of them about this; but I highly question if they will expire your Crysta if year 2 rolls around and they still aren't charging for the game.

They can extend free trial periods, so it stands to reason they can extend the expiration dates if those dates are approaching and they continue to keep FFXIV free.

[Runespider]

Are SE America and SE Europe considered semi-seperate entities to SE Japan? Would explain why 2 regions got much worse options if they have the ability to make their own decisions and decided to save some money at our expense.

If that's the case SE Europe might continue to give it's users crappy payment options.

[Alhanelem]

Are SE America and SE Europe considered semi-seperate entities to SE Japan?

Yes, they are wholly-owned subsidiaries.

However, SE Japan designed the account system, and made the games. For the most part, SE US and SE Europe can't do anything without corporate's approval.