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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It absolutely can be considered, unless your reason for threatening to quit has nothing to do with the payment system. Because if it does have to do with the payment system, the amount of money you will have paid when it is implemented is exactly $12.95 for each month- because so what if you paid $15 this month? When the system is implemented, you will be able to pay $12.95 - $(Remaining balance) and everything will be evened out. You will not have overpaid for anything, because you made up for it with an underpayment.
    I'm not threatening to quit, I'm just using it as an example. Things that do not exist cannot be considered. Didn't they teach that in like second grade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanova View Post
    This update said nothing that I saw about the two year expiration on crysta, so as it currently stands you are incorrect.
    There is no Crysta expiration, at least not in the US; and since this payment system change will be implemented in a matter of months, not years, any possible expiration date on your crysta is irrelevant.

    Things that do not exist cannot be considered.
    Things that are being implemented CAN be considered. It's your personal choice not to consider it, not a rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maacha View Post
    There is an additional fee, but it is small. I tried to do this earlier today, and it was asking for an additional $1.xx on a charge of $100 for Crysta. I was willing to do it, but they wouldn't take any of my credit cards >.>
    I'm not really interested in paying for 7 months in advance, though. Do you know if it's a flat fee or based on the amount of the transfer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    There was no fee for me when I added Crysta. Are you from outside the US?
    I tried the new direct credit card payment via Playspan/UltimatePay today, and this is what I saw:

    http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/g...18c1dd5771.jpg

    When I chose Paypal, there was no additional fee, it just listed $100. And again, I could not complete the transactions, for some reason it kept getting rejected by either Playspan, or SE, or Paypal... I have sent email to the support centers of all 3 to try to find out why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    There is no Crysta expiration, at least not in the US; and since this payment system change will be implemented in a matter of months, not years, any possible expiration date on your crysta is irrelevant.

    Things that are being implemented CAN be considered. It's your personal choice not to consider it, not a rule.
    http://www.square-enix.com/eu/en/acc...ta/charge.html Here ya go, bottom of the page where crysta expires...
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem;177252[b
    ]There is no Crysta expiration,[/b] at least not in the US; and since this payment system change will be implemented in a matter of months, not years, any possible expiration date on your crysta is irrelevant.


    on the EU site, so you are still incorrect. You can't just be like "Oh, well that's just for the Euros." Don't be a nub. Americans aren't the only people who play.

    And yes it's still relevant, I am already at 1 year on my crysta because I put it in back when ffxiv came out before finding out it was going to be on this eternal beta bs. And now Blizz is going to be bringing in the Deathwing raid soon so I stopped sooner than I expected on FFXI to get ready for it. Between that and KoTOR and Diabolo3, it's is an extreme possibility we are losing out on $60. (husband and I both bought $30 worth of crysta last year).


    Just because it isn't relevant to you, doesn't make you magically right.
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  7. #127
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maacha View Post
    I tried the new direct credit card payment via Playspan/UltimatePay today, and this is what I saw:

    http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/g...18c1dd5771.jpg

    When I chose Paypal, there was no additional fee, it just listed $100. And again, I could not complete the transactions, for some reason it kept getting rejected by either Playspan, or SE, or Paypal... I have sent email to the support centers of all 3 to try to find out why.
    Yeah, I just checked the payment page, and there was no (+$X.XX) there for me. It may have something to do with your location.

    http://www.square-enix.com/eu/en/acc...s/time_img.gif

    on the EU site, so you are still incorrect. You can't just be like "Oh, well that's just for the Euros." Don't be a nub. Americans aren't the only people who play.

    And yes it's still relevant, I am already at 1 year on my crysta because I put it in back when ffxiv came out before finding out it was going to be on this eternal beta bs.
    Well, unless they put the notice on the NA site, it is indeed "only for the euros." But even for you, no it is not relevant, because you still have another year before it supposedly expires, and they will implement this system long before that.

    Just because it isn't relevant to you, doesn't make you magically right.
    It's not just irrelevant to me, it's irrelevant to anyone else who is going to continue to play this game. Since you will be able to pay the exact amount you need, you will no longer have to deal with leftover crysta or worry about it expiring.

    it's is an extreme possibility we are losing out on $60.
    I can't comment on the crap that is Diablo III (lolrealmoney auciton house and permanent connection required for singleplayer) but for FFXI you will most certainly not be losing out on any money as long as you have already chosen Crysta as your payment method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lago View Post
    I'm not really interested in paying for 7 months in advance, though. Do you know if it's a flat fee or based on the amount of the transfer?
    Did the legwork and found out for myself. It wanted to charge me an extra $2.76 for a $100 transaction, but only +$0.35 for $20 worth of Crysta and no extra charge for $10 or $5. No idea why my fees are higher than Maacha's, but if they disappear near the amount I pay monthly then I don't have to care. Still annoyed at having to go through a third party, but I find this acceptable.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lago View Post
    Still annoyed at having to go through a third party, but I find this acceptable.
    It's not really a third party, at least if you're using a Visa card, as the site is now a Visa product.

    Did the legwork and found out for myself. It wanted to charge me an extra $2.76 for a $100 transaction, but only +$0.35 for $20 worth of Crysta and no extra charge for $10 or $5.
    OK, I only looked at the $5 level. I find it mildly amusing that any fee they might impose can be circumvented by using small payment amounts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lago View Post
    Still annoyed by change, but I find this acceptable.
    There, fixed.
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