Easier Payment Options (08/23/2011)

[Tacotaru]

It's under the UltimatePay option. Select it, and on the next screen you can choose to pay with a credit card only instead of going through paypal or using a game card. All major cards accepted.

Now this is some news gleaned from this thread. I was hoping I wasn't going to have to go the Paypal route for this with that mentioned, but I thought they were just opening it up to more regions.

[Lago]

It's under the UltimatePay option. Select it, and on the next screen you can choose to pay with a credit card only instead of going through paypal or using a game card. All major cards accepted.

(Note that UltimatePay.com is now owned by VISA. They bought out the company that runs it. If you trust your visa card, you can trust ultimatepay.)

Is there not still an additional fee I have to pay for routing a payment through UP rather than using my card directly?

UP being owned by VISA just makes this extra hoop make less sense to me. If SE will accept a payment from UP, why won't they accept one from VISA?

[Alhanelem]

Maybe Overpay is not the correct term, in which case we're debating different things.

Yes. That's exactly it. We have reached an accord.

UP being owned by VISA just makes this extra hoop make less sense to me. If SE will accept a payment from UP, why won't they accept one from VISA?

Because UltimatePay means a variety of payment options, not just credit cards. Plus, I imagine, by using their website to service payments under some kind of contract, they are saving money individual transaction costs- it costs SE a few cents for every transaction that takes place if they take direct transactions. Through ultimate pay, they most likely have just a flat cost.

[Karbuncle]

Who the heck is "liking" that? Paying the exact amount is what everyone wanted! Why are we arguing? Why are we complaining?

Because you claimed we are not overpaying. Now, rather this is the right term or not... to some not a big inconvenience, but to a few, this kind of payment system was not in their budget. These people are simply defending themselves from your asserted claims.

Just as you are defending said claims.

Anyway, there were other options so its not a gigantic deal, and they are giving us what we want, which is a great step from Square enix.

[Ozzymandeus]

While I'm still not completely convinced that the correct measures are being taken (as specifics have yet to be announced), I just wanted to post my approval of what SE is claiming they are doing here, as I posted my disapproval in the public bitch thread earlier. Fair is fair.

I'm still a bit disturbed by SE's inability to foresee the problems created with the Crysta/ClickandBuy system, and though SE has made tremendous strides in the last year or so, they still seem to fall into making some really horrible decisions at times. I can only guess as to why this is, but perhaps going on an acquisition spending spree has spread leadership too thin?

Anyway, don't want to beat a dead horse here (others are handling that just fine), so yeah... kudos - okay, tentative kudos - to SE for doing the right thing. I'll be waiting with bated breath.

[Vivik]

Apparently you do not see the fact that you can now get exactly the right amount of "monopoly money" to pay for your game and as long as you don't pay until you're ready to commit to playing, you will never pay for something you're not going to use.

Seriously, this is ridiculous. for the 400th time, SE is addressing your complaint. Stop arguing with me over semantics.

Who the heck is "liking" that? Paying the exact amount is what everyone wanted! Why are we arguing? Why are we complaining?

It's not semantics if I quit at the end of the month. It's overpaying. Unless I can buy something else with my 2.05 it's worthless. Which is why I will say it's overpaying.

Until the new crysta system is actually in place it does not exist, therefor cannot be considered.

[Finuve]

Again, your liquid cash has been turned into monopoly money that you lose in the event you quit playing XI or using SE online products. I don't care what SE has planned down the line because it is irrelevant. I want to pay and play for FINAL FANTASY XI in the amount me and SE through a contract agreed upon.

Do you not see the failings in a system based on rounding? Perhaps that's ok to you in a society where we're used to being hit with fees for everything from cancellation to breathing however.

SE has done the right thing in allowing individuals to pay exactly what they expect through crysta. If these same ideas are spread to all regions then the majority of the complaining will naturally subside.

now if microsoft would just do the same thing I might actually turn my Xbox on for the first time in 2 years

[Maacha]

Is there not still an additional fee I have to pay for routing a payment through UP rather than using my card directly?

There is an additional fee, but it is small. I tried to do this earlier today, and it was asking for an additional $1.xx on a charge of $100 for Crysta. I was willing to do it, but they wouldn't take any of my credit cards >.>

[Alhanelem]

Until the new crysta system is actually in place it does not exist, therefor cannot be considered.

It absolutely can be considered, unless your reason for threatening to quit has nothing to do with the payment system. Because if it does have to do with the payment system, the amount of money you will have paid when it is implemented is exactly $12.95 for each month- because so what if you paid $15 this month? When the system is implemented, you will be able to pay $12.95 - $(Remaining balance) and everything will be evened out. You will not have overpaid for anything, because you made up for it with an underpayment.

There is an additional fee, but it is small.

There was no fee for me when I added Crysta. Are you from outside the US?

[Romanova]

No, I'm not wrong. They don't take away your 1500 crysta to pay for the game. You keep the remaining $2.05 in your account. It doesn't disappear.

This update said nothing that I saw about the two year expiration on crysta, so as it currently stands you are incorrect.