Easier Payment Options (08/23/2011)

[Alhanelem]

Thats called "Overpaying".

No, it's not, because crysta isn't exclusively for paying your account fee; and the leftover amount can go toward next month's bill. Of course, they heard you, and soon you can get exactly the amount you want. So there isn't really any point in talking about it anymore.

[Karbuncle]

No, it's not, because crysta isn't exclusively for paying your account fee; and the leftover amount can go toward next month's bill. Of course, they heard you, and soon you can get exactly the amount you want. So there isn't really any point in talking about it anymore.

yes, it is Alhan. people here are only using it for Paying for FFXI, and if we're forced to pay an extra 3$ a month for it, that overpaying.

And even "Next months fees" Add up. If you have 3$ left over and next month only buy 10$, you're still out 5c, Big deal? not really, But you still over pay 3$ every other month simply to get by with your account. I think it was at the time unacceptable.

And these prices/figures are assuming people don't have more than 1 account, or more than 1 Content I.D, with that factor it adds up even further.

When i hear "overpay", I think it means "Paying more than intended for a product". We intend to pay 12.95, We have to pay 15.00, thats overpaying.

I feel these peoples concerns were valid, and so did Square Enix. apparently!

Edit: And you're right i suppose? No reason to discuss it further. But you can still respond to this if you will. I can tell when a discussions is meaningless a mile away, so I feel arguing with you will be like using my head to break down a wall.

[Rosina]

UM ok no you don't I used point system in the past. So i do know how to use them. And content ID are under ffxi accounts. But here is the thing with crysta you can buy mnths ahead of time. You just not seeing it. But really you example isn't show over spending. You just buying crysta. Which you can use it to pay for the game. But there will be other uses for it. Heck one use is to buy a content ID or in ffxi extra retainers and the like. If you only spend crysta on paying for ffxi. That is your issue. And maybe should have thought it through. I do plan on using crysta from those cards. I'm gonna bank mnths a head so i do not need to worry about it.

[Karbuncle]

DERP DERP LOL I DERP

Okay, Even i can spot a lost cause. Enjoy living in Fantasy land. Hope reality doesn't bite you too hard when you finally encounter it.

[mistmonster]

hur hur yes, it is. You can debate illogical crap all you want. But people here are only using it for Paying for FFXI, and if we're forced to pay an extra 3$ a month for it, that overpaying.

Deal with it.

And not to forget this compounds when you pay for more than 1 account.

but just want to add my thanks for listening. I logged on for the first time since the 3rd today in light of the good news. Now I have to go through all those posts on the new stuff their adding or changing because I thought I would not get to see the changes! I really hope they fix it soon for the people that switched over and can not pay, though.

[Pharaun]

Okay, Even i can spot a lost cause. Enjoy living in Fantasy land. Hope reality doesn't bite you too hard when you finally encounter it.

Oh she'll never have to encounter reality because her parents were shielding her from it for a while, and now her boyfriend is.

[Karbuncle]

Clearly i cannot edit quick enough~

[JackDaniels]

This is great SE, thank you for replying to our concerns. +2 respect points for joo. Anyone here saying "boo-hoo it's too late, the damage is done" is just being a drama queen

No, it's not, because crysta isn't exclusively for paying your account fee; and the leftover amount can go toward next month's bill. Of course, they heard you, and soon you can get exactly the amount you want. So there isn't really any point in talking about it anymore.

QFT

[Alhanelem]

yes, it is Alhan. people here are only using it for Paying for FFXI, and if we're forced to pay an extra 3$ a month for it, that overpaying.

It's not "an extra $3 a month," for one, it will vary with your leftover balance, and no, not everyone here is only using it to Pay (Un-necessary capitalized word) for FFXI, it's also being used to buy security tokens, additional characters, will eventually be used for FFXIV if they ever start charging for it, and will be used for other services in the future. It's not an FFXI-only payment system, whether it's your only personal reason or not.

... I'm not going to repeat this again.

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Something that does need to be clarified though, in case people are missing it: The new credit card option for Crysta is underneath the UltimatePay button. Now, in addition to Paypal and Ultimate Game Cards, you have the option to use a credit card without the extra 2nd middleman.

[Karbuncle]

It's not "an extra $3 a month," for one, it will vary with your leftover balance,

Which will be slightly better or slightly worse, and in the end you overpay but some amount.

and no, not everyone here is only using it to Pay (Un-necessary capitalized word) for FFXI

The people complaining were, So this is irrelevant. I like to call this a Straw man.

it's also being used to buy security tokens

And if we already have one?

additional characters

If we dont need any?

will eventually be used for FFXIV if they ever start charging for it

If we have no interest in FFXIV?

and will be used for other services in the future.

Services most of us dont intend to use, since as far as we're concerned, this is simply an alternative to paying for FFXI.

It's not an FFXI-only payment system, whether it's your only personal reason or not.

So many straw men.

I don't know if you're choosing not to understand or really just don't want too... But just because its used for other services, does not mean to those people intended to use it to pay for FFXI, that if holding 1 account and 1 Content I.D, paying 15.00/mnth for 12.95account is overpaying to them.

Again, the next month you have to buy 15 again, because you'll have 2.05 left over, but 10+2.05 = 12.05 you're behind still. so now you have 17.05 on an account for a 12.95 fee. next month it'll be about 4.10 left over, then the month after about 1.15, then you'll need to buy 15 again and so on.

It changes for each person but for the average it was clear, and i feel their concerns were real.

You may get along just fine with it, and come to terms with it, But i simply feel those people who complained (most of them) had valid reasons.

Those still complaining i think are indeed Drama queens, because its clear SE listened and is doing all they can to satisfy our concerns, and I'm greatly appreciative.

... I'm not going to repeat this again.

Thats your prerogative. If you don't respond to me it simply means you're the better man yes? I respect that.