Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

[Korpg]

Unless the stun effect is 20 seconds or longer, this BP won't be used that often at all.

[Soundwave]

Shiva's only the "best" magical one because of Abyssea and Atma of the Beyond.

Outside of that its mostly equal, However since you can only pick 2 BP's to fully Merit, and the difference in power thanks to TP from a Fully merited one, and one with only a single merit is so large, You generally merit to max your favorite/Best performer and go from there.

Outside, Technically Ifrit's is the most powerful, thanks to that new Fervor Ring increasing ifrits Magic Attack by like, 1.

Its a matter of preferences, the only reason you see shiva is because people prefer her, shes no more powerful than any others.

Indeed, just was naming the popular avatar atm I do agree with what you said 100%

Unless the stun effect is 20 seconds or longer, this BP won't be used that often at all.

That will be cool! Much like a Geocrush stun effect sometimes when it procs long enough.

[Karbuncle]

Aye, Well, Hopefully they rework quite a few BP:Wards.

The only one i really want over-hauled is Earthern Ward, Which definitely needs a potency boost, to that of a normal Stoneskin. Back when no one would Accession, It made sense to make it weaker, But now that anyone can aoe Stoneskin, this BP needs to get with the times.

[Miera]

Yeah, I'd like to see Titan's stoneskin revamped. I was wondering if there are ways to make his Earthen armor more powerful.. like atmas?

also think that the avatars may need to be adjusted a little more uniquely. You'd think Titan would be the one with more defense and Ifrit would be probably the most physically stronger, (I sometimes think he should play more of a WARs role..)

They are all considered BLMS..

I'd like their attributes to be changed a little to be similar to all the avatars, instead of just being a BLM I think they should have a sub job. like

Ifrit WAR/BLM and Carbuncle WHM/BLM although I don't consider Carby to be anything near a BLM.

Also, I wonder if they will do anything For Carbuncle, a new Healing BP? Something a lot stronger? Maybe something that can even heal Other Alliance members in AoE range?

Would it kill them to let pets heal each other instead of themselves and members? I think It would be nice... but that maybe asking for too much??

[Dallas]

If under the effect of Ward and If its not instant what good is this stun?

I would use a few thousand mp to stun > reset > repeat. Not sure what you guys will do.

[Karbuncle]

I'd like their attributes to be changed a little to be similar to all the avatars, instead of just being a BLM I think they should have a sub job. like

Ifrit WAR/BLM and Carbuncle WHM/BLM although I don't consider Carby to be anything near a BLM.

In one of their questionnaires they said "no" to this idea because they did not want Avatars to be chosen based on their jobs/etc, they wanted Avatars to be chosen based on their Element... Or something, You can find it on here still.

(I.E they wanted you to use Ifrit on something weak to Fire, and so on, and they think buffing an avatar in a way like you said would tend to make people use an Avatar with the highest attack, or the highest magic attack, instead of the pet that would be effective against the enemies weakness)

[Miera]

Bah humbug. ><

[Tannlore]

Hmm Carby's BP removes all status ailments? Really? All? Well if this is true then I'm pretty happy about this BP. Wonder what they will do to Healing Water though... Meh

Stunga still makes me kinda sad, but at least it's a cool direct casted stun. Might stop some things on chance or at least stop a mob for a few seconds here and there when it's up.

[Dallas]

That strategy of choosing the right element is why Tunga finally fell, and why DG was nerfed. It's not a stretch to think this was the original plan.

[Korpg]

That strategy of choosing the right element is why Tunga finally fell, and why DG was nerfed. It's not a stretch to think this was the original plan.

You discovered how to kill Tunga finally????

Wow, congratulations, you are 6 months too late!