Carabosse

[Calamity]

So it was nice when they increased each empyrean NM's ??? was increased from 1 to 3, however, there is a problem that exists. Carabosse has the Benediction ability, and it will hit any other fairy in range. It's cruel when you work at tearing her down only to have someone pop another right next to you and find your mob instantly back to full hp. There have been numerous instances of this being done purposely with malicious intent. Can't something be done about this?

[Alderin]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...se-Benediction

Agreed.

[Ihnako]

As mentioned by Kristal in posting #6 of the thread ...

No, it's working as intended. Beneficial aoe effects cast by mobs have always hit all mobs in range, and Benediction is notorious for this effect due to waking up a whole mess of sleeping mobs in dynamis.

So the only solution - don't camp on each other!

[Calamity]

As stated, there have been instances where this has been done intentionally. People can be dicks. Pretty sure we've all had experiences with the type of people who might do something like this for a laugh.

[Alderin]

As mentioned by Kristal in posting #6 of the thread ...


So the only solution - don't camp on each other!

Dynamis mobs have true AOE because they were originally designed as reservation zones, where upto 36 players can enter and fight the same mobs.

However in Abyssea, this is open game to anyone that decides to farm Carabosse.

Apart from Dynamis, there are pretty much no mobs / nm's that have the ability to interfere with one another when claimed by 2x *seperate* alliances.

Sure mobs link, pixies cure each other, buff each other etc etc, however why can a pixie NM claimed by an alliance other then your own, heal another NM that is claimed by your alliance?

There are a few mobs in abyssea that are true-aoe which is fine (like Pantokrater, the odd Ironclad etc) however Carabosse does not under normal circumstances possess this trait - apart from 2hr.

In the end, it's an annoying part of farming Carabosse next to other players, especially ones that attempt to MPK and steal pop sets you have farmed.

I could understand if Benediction restored an unclaimed Carabosse, however it should not restore one claimed by another alliance.

[Ihnako]

You self answered your question... one after each other

Dynamis mobs have true AOE because they were originally designed as reservation zones, where upto 36 players can enter and fight the same mobs.

You can enter Dynamis with 3 full alliances and in case I remember right. It's limited to 64 player except dreamlands.

However in Abyssea, this is open game to anyone that decides to farm Carabosse.

Apart from Dynamis, there are pretty much no mobs / nm's that have the ability to interfere with one another when claimed by 2x *seperate* alliances.

Sure mobs link, pixies cure each other, buff each other etc etc, however why can a pixie NM claimed by an alliance other then your own, heal another NM that is claimed by your alliance?

That's where you answered your own question - Carabosse is a Pixie and an NM so take it as garanted that an NM can do more than regular mobs. Nevertheless Carabosse did Benediction since Abyssea was introduced and healed every mob while it was claimed. So there is nothing new nor odd with it's behaviour. It's all about the playerbase to deal with it.
By the way - Carabosse is the easiest NM to start an empyrean so don't cry if you have to use some common sense.

There are a few mobs in abyssea that are true-aoe which is fine (like Pantokrater, the odd Ironclad etc) however Carabosse does not under normal circumstances possess this trait - apart from 2hr.

In the end, it's an annoying part of farming Carabosse next to other players, especially ones that attempt to MPK and steal pop sets you have farmed.

Please call a GM in case someone tries to steal your pop.

I could understand if Benediction restored an unclaimed Carabosse, however it should not restore one claimed by another alliance.

See second quote - It's an NM and it's fine the way it is right now.

[Alderin]

How did I answer my own "question" exactly?

Dynamis was designed as as a reservation zone. Ie - the group that entered had to have some form of association with each other therefore true-aoe 2hr's were not an issue. Sure this may still happen in Dynamis but it is not an issue.

Carabosse however is an area that is open to everyone (this feels remarkably like my first post). Therefore it should not be able to interact with alliances outside of those that are claimed.

The use of 2hrs with monsters (correct me if I am wrong) pretty much started in Dynamis - a restricted zone to players that have association. Benediction healing surrounding mobs was not an issue as all players in the area had association with each other.

I will repeat, Abyssea is not a restricted area to those who have association with each other - therefore is open to abuse by the playerbase.

That's where you answered your own question - Carabosse is a Pixie and an NM so take it as garanted that an NM can do more than regular mobs. Nevertheless Carabosse did Benediction since Abyssea was introduced and healed every mob while it was claimed. So there is nothing new nor odd with it's behaviour. It's all about the playerbase to deal with it.
By the way - Carabosse is the easiest NM to start an empyrean so don't cry if you have to use some common sense.

In regards to this, are you pulling a blind eye here? As I said, it is OK for Carabosse to be able to heal surrounding mobs, however when it is interfering with a separate NM claimed by a separate alliance in a public zone - do you not see the issue?

No I am not doing the Carabosse path, have completed quite a few of them for other people. I am not butthurt because it's "too hard" and I am QQ'ing about it, I am simply stating that currently the ability for Carabosse to heal another alliance's pop is open to player abuse.

I will be brutally honest - I couldn't care less that it got changed or not, however the point is mute - an NM claimed by your alliance should not be able to interfere with one claimed by a separate affiliation. If the name is yellow, it's all fair game. If it's pink then it shouldnt be able to be touched.

[Calamity]

That's where you answered your own question - Carabosse is a Pixie and an NM so take it as garanted that an NM can do more than regular mobs. Nevertheless Carabosse did Benediction since Abyssea was introduced and healed every mob while it was claimed. So there is nothing new nor odd with it's behaviour. It's all about the playerbase to deal with it.
By the way - Carabosse is the easiest NM to start an empyrean so don't cry if you have to use some common sense.

You really are missing the point, it's the fact that this function can be so easily manipulated and exploited in an aggressive way that is the problem. And you are right about Carabosse being easy (Though I would argue that Briareus and Fistule are easier) But that's just it. It's easy enough to solo/duo, and while I'm not worried about dying, it's still a pain to have to redo all the work you just did for, quite frankly, no "good" reason.

[Zatias]

This is why I pull the NM across the map.

[Ihnako]

In case you can't beat Carabosse - You shouldn't try to.
Beating a NM means to know what to do and how to do. If you can't bear with the odds against you - don't try and cry.
If you try and learn something than it's good but don't cry in the forums cause you can't beat (max) 3 times benediction cause you camp on each other.

I'm sorry to say it straigt - learn how to beat that NM or never come back to this threas as long as there isn't anything broken.