Mythic Weapons - Yes another topic, no not complaining.

[Modoru]

Well now they're somewhat easier, sure.

But if you think about it, it's easier than farming upwards of 180mil in currency for one weapon in one point of view.

It's just a long series of quests that involves killing a lot of mobs. And I think once you do that, you can get pretty much all of them in a much easier fashion. The only real issue is getting the therion ichor, the tokens and the alexandrite -- but even then, I'm pretty sure you can get that faster with people than you could with relics.

[Suirieko]

Well now they're somewhat easier, sure.

But if you think about it, it's easier than farming upwards of 180mil in currency for one weapon in one point of view.

It's just a long series of quests that involves killing a lot of mobs. And I think once you do that, you can get pretty much all of them in a much easier fashion. The only real issue is getting the therion ichor, the tokens and the alexandrite -- but even then, I'm pretty sure you can get that faster with people than you could with relics.

Not exactly. You still have to consider 30,000 Alexandrites, in which the price is skyrocketing even as we speak. Alexandrites would not be a problem, even to buy enmasse, since it used to cost 3K each in phoenix, now it's averaging around 7K~8K, and that's people being generously cheap. I'm starting to see Alexandrites in bazaar for 10K and even 15K. Like I said, no matter how hard you try to claim otherwise. It's unreasonable. Period. SE needs to looking into other ways to add TONS of Alexandrites back into the market, in order to even begin justifying the mythic.

The fact that salvage gears were considered the best of the best gears around is one reason why buying Alexandrites would be no problem. The salvage pieces were extremely rare to get to the point that people had to constantly spam salvage to get what they want, Especially Usukane Body, level 35 piece.

Getting Alexandrites will not be fast. Period. There isn't even enough Alexandrites in the market to even support one mythic, without taking an unreasonable long time to do so, due to little interest in salvage now. Not to mention that the majortiy of the players do not even care about the mythic due to A) how little they compare to Empyrean and even Relics, and B) the extreme difficult to get it.

"It's just a series of quests that involves killing a lot of mobs" exactly describes what Empyrean weapons are. You are killing a lot of mobs for the drop items to complete an empyrean weapon. Mythic involves a lot more than that. It involves redoing all 50 assaults again. It involves spamming nyzul til you get 150K tokens (and believe me it will take a LOT of nyzul runs). It involves constantly doing Einherjar til you get 100K Theron Ichrons, which is actually pretty easy, if you are part of a dedicated Einherjar group. It involves, obviously, getting 30,000 Alexandrites, and finally, it involves getting final 3 ZNM trophies which aren't even 100% drops, and these ZNMs aren't even easy to get to.

People can try to claim how easy it is to get an empyrean, but the Vana'diel census regarding the mythic speaks volume. No matter how much you try to say how easy it is, if it was actually easy (and worthwhile) far more people would have mythics now, but here's the truth: it's not easy. The requirements are unreasonable, period. Especially with the alexandrites, and especially with the VNM trophies. Not to mention, many of the weapons, save a few are completely lackluster.

Mythic weapons was considered easy because people actually cared about the content where the mythic weapons were involved. EG: Einherjar, Nyzul, Assault, Salvage, and ZNM. Even then, doing Mythic weapons were difficult which require a lot of dedication. Right now, its harder because the majority of players won't care about the said events.

I am hoping that the upcoming changes to ToAU events will receive a massave overhaul as promised, enough to justify doing mythics, because face it, if you compare the effort it takes to get the empyrean, and even relics, there's almost no point in doing mythics, because, hey, you got something! HEll, I wouldn't be arguing that SE should be allowing the five newest jobs to use the relics if the mythics weren't that problematic to get. Then again, regardless, I still say they should, but that's another thread for that.