The rule of thumb, typically, is to get to 200+ minutes after capping Azure, then you can cap Ruby. Its just a lot of people come to EXP parties without stones so they cry and demand that you cap Azure for TEs first -- even though most people have 100+ stones just from the fact you seldom actually need them.
Its just people being needy/lazy.
If I'm looking at time of 200+ minutes and we don't have ruby for some reason, I usually leave.
Side note, technically Weapon Skills are special attacks, so it doesn't surprise me that, since just about everything outside of melee and Casting the Automaton does is considered a special attack, you'd get Ruby from a ranged attack.


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