The noob moments that you have witnessed that made you /facepalm...

[Buffy]

please tell me you guys know what a video game is and what fun is right? no neec to take a game seriously and make it overly complicated. And insult others for not playing how you want them to.
That is the one thing wrong with the ffxi community. People think they need to be epic to be considered a good player. Good players know what a game is, and what fun is. They are open minded and play win or lose. They fully understand that there is no such thing as wasting time on an mmo, since you waste time playing one. They understand that working as a team is better then being a solo performer.

Could you stop talking? You're annoying the adults.

[Modoru]

please tell me you guys know what a video game is and what fun is right? no neec to take a game seriously and make it overly complicated. And insult others for not playing how you want them to.
That is the one thing wrong with the ffxi community. People think they need to be epic to be considered a good player. Good players know what a game is, and what fun is. They are open minded and play win or lose. They fully understand that there is no such thing as wasting time on an mmo, since you waste time playing one. They understand that working as a team is better then being a solo performer.

We're not arguing about what constitutes a "good gamer". We're talking about what constitutes an "efficient gamer" in FFXI. Who says we don't know how to have fun and play this game in that manner? We do. We just do it efficiently. You, however, choose to be a mediocre player, and pretend everyone else is just a bad gamer, because they don't want to play at a low level like yours. A person that may use gear swaps still needs team co-operation -- since when is gear so life-changing that it completely annulls the need for communication between players?
Quite frankly, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point -- just admit fault.

lol i was only comments on those who flung insults to get their point across. not everyone. Different thread is a different thread.

You figure people would understand that forums bring the worst outa ppl and take what is said with a grain of salt. If you take how I word my posts to seriously, then I feel for ya. I'm more or less just trying to drum up a good debate. But yes with a lil wenom since I read something I took a bit off offence to. But I have my reasons. If you can't debate or type with out insulting someone expect it right back. I just gave a 1 liner of an opion.

Again, you were the first to "fling an insult". I don't really take you seriously -- in fact, I consider all of your opinions pretty derpy, honestly. I'm actually somewhat ashamed a player of your level exists, and claims to be better than the rest.
Regardless, you do not drum up a debate by shutting down opinions of others, or, as I said earlier, calling them dumb, stupid, etc. You did not debate, you simply slandered other people's views.

[Meyi]

Here's a /facepalm moment:

I outposted to the Kuzotz region and ran to Rabao to get my Wind Pendulum only to realize I failed to read the wiki instructions. I was suppose to go back to Koru-Moru, get a cutscene, then go to Rabao. Five minutes wasted!

[Zatias]

Alukat provides excellent examples here, Rosina.

I mean no disrespect, but I can't stand people so dense and stubborn to admit that they are wrong. You are wrong to say player skill is everything. It's a large contribution, but gear augments your skill. You can't do a lot of things without the right gear/gear swaps.

Many of us play to have fun, and dying over and over again isn't always a blast.

[Kimble]

Its always funny when people say to respect how others like to play the game, etc.

If you want me to respect you not playing efficiently and just for fun, respect me for wanting to play well and my gear swapping.

Just ironic you don't want people to push their way of playing on you, but you want to push your way on others.

[Rosina]

I insulted no one yet was insulted by 3 people. Yet you guys question my posts look at yours as well. I type to others on how they typed to me first. Insult me, do not expect me ta be nice. treat me respectfuly chhosing your words, I'm a cute happy kitty. I'm a nice person in reality. Oh and elitist are players who are one track mind. They take this or any gane to seriously making it sound like a job more then a game. These people also force their play styles on other or tell you off (like what you guys have been doing).
You guys seem toforget alot, ALOT has changed since I lasted played. So instead of making insults about my intelligence. How about you politely correct my error. What I said was my personal experience. I also had party members un target if they gear swap. If they changed it great. Tell me nicely instead of assuming I'm pulling stuff outa my rear. You guys do act childish at times in these forums. Like assuming the worst and mocking a person for a mistake or out dated info.

[Ravenmore]

that is wear decent skill level + gear come in no need to gear swap. tryinbg to "be the best" in an mmo is pipe dream thinking. I just play for fun. Those who take games to seriously shouldn't play them.

I tried not to insult you guys, but you are asking fot it. Youre doing the 1 think I dispise most about this community. And that is the shoving your play style down peoples throats. If you think your better gear swaping, good. I think I'm better with out it. I rely on everyone in my party to be synced to gether and do not try to out perform my party members. Thats how mistakes happen. The best players are the ones who choose when to do something.

Its not shoving it down other people throuts. Its my 12.95 and my time. So I expect other people to preform at at thier best so we have fun and not waste time by having to keep fighting the mob over and over hoping we can win this time. This is also really importanmt if we have to kill the mob a few dozen times till everyone gets what they want off the mob. I can and so can every other player that knows what is going on if a melee/mage is using gear swaps or not.

Yeah modoru this is the type of player that never got into a real endgame shell and complained about it. I don't mean a endgame shell that did ground or had ground in it but did sea higher tier ZNM low man events and really just got things done with out 30+ people.

To add, they didn't change anything with <stal> its been working all this time. They added that cause of the complaints they got and to combat windower.

[Modoru]

I'm just calling you out on all your shit, really. It's not even about you being good or bad. You're just full of shit. Simple as that.

On that note, I have a headache, I can only deal with so much of this in one day. Night guys.

[Zatias]

Can you see that most people type rude to you because you don't understand the first time?

[Rosina]

@ mod. actualy I wasn't the first to fling an insult.
I can't take people seriously who insult players for choice of play like you did or use tween words like derp.
I take pride in my jobs in ffxi And I better myself with out resorting to cheap tatics. I've done a ton of stuff with out gear swaping and did just fine. Heck I did said stuff in crap gear. Tbh gear swaping on was around for my server a good 2 .5 years. So that is 6 years people went with out gear swaping. Sorry but i think your a bad player if your attitude is the pits. Which mod, you got a poor attitude. People like you are why people can't stand getting help or caring to much. Or heck play mmo solo. I do not come on a gamed to deal with people who take a gane so seriously, as they insult a person the way you just did. Dude really grow up. It just a game no need for the poor attitude.