The noob moments that you have witnessed that made you /facepalm...

[Zatias]

You need to read better.

I didn't ever say "be the best", I said that I try to be the best I CAN BE.

I have fun playing the way I do, and if you want to play and limit your performance, knock yourself out~

[Rosina]

It's called being respectful of other people's time and providing your best effort.

<stal> Does not untarget when someone blinks. It does not need numbers and can cover anyone in the alliance. People need to learn how to go into game and test something out before they come here and spew garbage to which they have no bloody clue about.

Rosina you're entitled to your opinions just like we're entitled to think they're utter garbage. That's our opinion of your opinions and you can't do anything about it so get over it. If us dissecting your sentences to point out just how wrong they are offends you, then maybe you should reconsider hitting the post button.

The last three pages are thus a /facepalm.

like I said if it changed I just found out. please be respectful and vhoose your words better. I hate theswe 1 sided you can't insult but I have free rain because i;m a lol good player.

there are right and wrong way to debate. yall the sarah palin side.

[Rosina]

You need to read better.

I didn't ever say "be the best", I said that I try to be the best I CAN BE.

I have fun playing the way I do, and if you want to play and limit your performance, knock yourself out~

here is the thing my performce may be infact better then yours. here is what you didn;t read. Those who fear failur do not learn. if you 100% spells you cast spells less often, and unless your capped you tend to have lower skill levels. personally speaking. I have tried gear swaping before and tbh I never noticed a difference in my performance. And this was coming from capped skills as a rdm. Sorry but try to be respectful in your words. And to people having different play styles. You really had no right to say the above that can be see as a insult.

[Modoru]

there are right and wrong way to debate. yall the sarah palin side.

Pot calling the kettle black, this is a huge klaxon going off right there!
If you're going to talk about "right and wrong" when it comes to debate, then I wholly suggest you go back and read every single on of your posts regarding the SE Transfer / Payment system debate, in which you are your own side and literally shut off any other opinion and pass it off as "dumb, stupid or childish".

[Ravenmore]

skill is all timing and team work I call gear swapers party soloist they do not work as a team more just play solo while ina party. They tend to not care if tank has decent hate before doing a 3-6K dmg ws thinking they're a cool kid. Sorry I laught ar ppl who spike their dmg and only due from it.

Gear swaps and knowing when to is what allowed people to 6 man HNMs long before abyssea, were just good player took whole alliances to kill the same mob.

The whole it "didn't work for me" is not true, my macros been working just fine for 5 years sure other people's macros workng well too you did something wrong. Players that refused to make the most out of thier jobs are the ones that were left to body chunk sky, dyna and limbus in shout pick up LSes.

Not seeking out infomation is the down fall of all not just in the game in the rest of life too. You wouldn't start a career today with out training or seeking out how to improve your self would you (career not working at the 7eleven or wal-mart door greeter). When I was still working I would go eat at different place's and look up what other chefs were doing see what the current trends were, this is called research.

[Zatias]

Can hardly call it a debate since it is so one-sided. I'm sorry.

[Zatias]

Can you tell me what you see as an Elitist then? And don't say "you all" lol.

Also, did I ever say I haven't had any failures? I trial and error a lot, since I work with a small group of people. This also means that I also have to step up my game gear-wise and play-wise.

[Rosina]

please tell me you guys know what a video game is and what fun is right? no neec to take a game seriously and make it overly complicated. And insult others for not playing how you want them to.
That is the one thing wrong with the ffxi community. People think they need to be epic to be considered a good player. Good players know what a game is, and what fun is. They are open minded and play win or lose. They fully understand that there is no such thing as wasting time on an mmo, since you waste time playing one. They understand that working as a team is better then being a solo performer.

[Alukat]

wasn't hear when that was added. but still I think gear swaping is stupid. That is my opinion, anfd I have the right to say it. If you care to insult me over my opinion then you just prove how childish you are
Oh and yes I did try gear swaping and I thought it was lame gear don;t make the player skill does. It isn;t how hard you hit. It is in how well timed you are to work as a team gear swaping is for ego stroking. It just wastes space needlessy. Again just my opinions on it. Didn;t want my harsh opinions? Then don't be a noob and hate on other who chpoose not to gear swap. simple

gear swap for "ego stroking"?

gear swap is to make fights easier >.>

example:

i was duoing carabosse with a friend alot.
he was whm had cure potency set & enfeebling magic set.

examples:

he could get paralyze up all the time, carabosse muted me and i had shadows down, survived tornado II because it was paralyzed and this interrupted the spell, when a strong spell that didn't oneshot me hit me he could cure me to full hp pretty quick thx to cure potency set swap.
then he sold the whm gear (see this as full time use of cure potency set) because he didn't want to play the job mainly anymore.
we did carabosse again, he didn't get paralyze up anymore, this ended with mute + shadows down and the tornado II did oneshot me :x

another example for usefull gear swaps:

byakko whm + thf duo

thf needs gear swap there to max out ws dmg to make it possible to kill it before the whm runs out of mp.
a couple melee hits,tp-move, banishga-iii can eat the whm's mp pretty quick, that's why u want to gear swap to kill it fast.

now u see the point in gear swap? it can be the difference between win and fail

Edit: do u still need to target the person before <stal> works?

[Rosina]

Pot calling the kettle black, this is a huge klaxon going off right there!
If you're going to talk about "right and wrong" when it comes to debate, then I wholly suggest you go back and read every single on of your posts regarding the SE Transfer / Payment system debate, in which you are your own side and literally shut off any other opinion and pass it off as "dumb, stupid or childish".

lol i was only comments on those who flung insults to get their point across. not everyone. Different thread is a different thread.

You figure people would understand that forums bring the worst outa ppl and take what is said with a grain of salt. If you take how I word my posts to seriously, then I feel for ya. I'm more or less just trying to drum up a good debate. But yes with a lil wenom since I read something I took a bit off offence to. But I have my reasons. If you can't debate or type with out insulting someone expect it right back. I just gave a 1 liner of an opion.