Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

[Soundwave]

I just want my CAT! I wanna see what she can do! haha!

[Covenant]

In my own post in the summoner job section on updating avatars and spirits lvl 1~ 99, I mention what I thought was the truly amazing thing about a summoner's avatar when compared to blackmages and redmages.

What WAS truly amazing about avatar was their access to elemental nukes(tier II and IV) nearly 10 or more lvls earlier then blackmages. Also, their wards to -aga things like enthunder and spikes. More specifically, ALL avatar received these elemental nukes at the same time. So while everyone is anticipating Ramuh's new bloodpact, I personally wish to see a tier VI nuke for ALL avatar at lvl 99. Or, at the very least a Ancient Magic ~aga.

[Tarage]

Sadly, since Avatars don't have BLM skill, their nukes are horribly underpowered.

[Malamasala]

Sadly, since Avatars don't have BLM skill, their nukes are horribly underpowered.

They are BLMs, and have the same traits as a BLM. The potency of for example 75 merit pacts is same as 75 merit AM. The difference is that SE gives BLM unlimited MAB armors. The good old 15% or whatever damage bonus elemental staffs is also hard to compete with on avatars.

BLM and SMN naked would probably deal similar damage. If that is any valid example.

[Soundwave]

Glad that Avatars don't have BLM's skills, being able to reach high steady damage without almost no effort even with gear is great; there is a fine selection of MAB gear to increase that damage.

I'm just referring to 75 pacts.

[Neonii]

I just want my CAT! I wanna see what she can do! haha!

What he said. I have to admit I am intrigued about what she will actually look like floating behind the summoner. Maybe we will do a double take when we first see her with a mithra summoner. I keep can picture her walking around with the smn more like a fellow graphic than floating in the air. Either way should be interesting. Anyway back to the topic.

[Soundwave]

Posting this here as well in hopes SE does not screw up the new SMN JA for recast timers.

Please give this some thought SE in the quote below, thank you.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...28SMN%29/page3

few questions are good...the whole thing is a bit weak though.....I'm surprised nothing was said about spirits, even though I don't care to much for them, however I'd like to see an adjustment...whether we get that or not It won't hurt us as a job.

If it resets the BP timers...the MP used better take a balanced portion from the time that's left from your recast timer.

Just an Exampleeeeeeessss:

I would like to see the new JA work along these examples

Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 60 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ 60*2=120 MP
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 50 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ 50*2=100 MP
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 40 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ 40*2=80 MP
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 30 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ 30*2=60 MP
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 20 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ 20*2=40 MP
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 10 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ 10*2=20 MP

[SIZE="5"]Yes Please[/SIZE]

I would not want the new JA to work like this

Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 60 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ Fixed MP 100
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 50 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ Fixed MP 100
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 40 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ Fixed MP 100
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 30 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ Fixed MP 100
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 20 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ Fixed MP 100
Timer - Blood Pact: Rage 10 Seconds left/ Use new JA/ Fixed MP 100

[SIZE="5"]No Thanks[/SIZE]

Will be total crap if it is only a fixed amount of MP, this will feel along the lines of when BP's used to activate when a mob ran out of range. The penalty will be x amount of MP lost if you activate the new JA when the recast is like @ 2 seconds left by accident. I hope this is not the case.

I'm not looking for people to flame this example "Its only an example." I'm looking for collaboration in the right direction for this JA.

[Razushu]

Posting this here as well in hopes SE does not screw up the new SMN JA for recast timers.

Please give this some thought SE in the quote below, thank you.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...28SMN%29/page3

few questions are good...the whole thing is a bit weak though.....I'm surprised nothing was said about spirits, even though I don't care to much for them, however I'd like to see an adjustment...whether we get that or not It won't hurt us as a job.



I'm not looking for people to flame this example "Its only an example." I'm looking for collaboration in the right direction for this JA.

The ability working from a fixed fee is a terrible idea, unless it's a fixed reduction to delay. Like a stance that when active grants -15 sec BP delay for an increase of 30-50MP per BP.

I like your yes please example, and it fits in really well with SE's stated vision of managing our MP.

[Korpg]

The ability working from a fixed fee is a terrible idea, unless it's a fixed reduction to delay. Like a stance that when active grants -15 sec BP delay for an increase of 30-50MP per BP.

I like your yes please example, and it fits in really well with SE's stated vision of managing our MP.

I have a feeling it will be like Avatar's Favor that it costs MP per tick to lower the BP down.

[Razushu]

I have a feeling it will be like Avatar's Favor that it costs MP per tick to lower the BP down.

As long as -perp gear could counter it, I'd be ok with that.