Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

[Soundwave]

Hell, let's look at it your way. Let's get rid of the negatives on it. But why stop there? Let's get rid of perp cost all together under favor. Let's set the BP recast time to 0. Let's give avatars +200 stats..

Now your just getting a bit ridiculousness, your just another internet tough guy.

[Neonii]

Indeed it is, with the current gear as of now Avatars Favor side effects are irreverent to MP Refresh for a summoner...so in my eyes.....

"Whats the point of -Status effects"

When we all know that it is for a "Stance trade off." The game has moved on and it needs to have "some" type of update to please the player base.

Please step off your high horse, and take a breath and respond with more respectful post, if you don't agree just say it, don't have to get all nasty as stated in from the OP.

I agree with being more respectful. IMO it's not ok to be disrespectful to someone because they don't agree with you. Your ideas are interesting you don't need to make it personal. Also, I find it hard to take someone serious who spends so much time saying other folks don't understand the game or how it works. I would be more likely to try out something someone who "don't know the game than someone talking down to others all the time". Maybe folks don't mean any harm but some of us don't like it. Remember that old saying you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

[Soundwave]

Mewing Lullaby, Any thoughts for TP drain on mobs....will SE gimp it or drain all TP?

I really interested in what people are thinking of Cait Sith current abilities, that will soon be used in battle.

P.S. Thanks Neonii

[Tarage]

Now your just getting a bit ridiculousness, your just another internet tough guy.

I'm making as much sense as you do.

Explain to me why people would choose to not use Avatar's Favor full time if you took away the negatives.

And Neonii, I'm not here to be nice or make friends. I'm here to try to talk some sense into the people who are flooding SE with questions and suggestions that they should be beat in the head for. Yeah, I'm not nice, but I sure as hell am right.

[Soundwave]

I'm making as much sense as you do.

Explain to me why people would choose to not use Avatar's Favor full time if you took away the negatives.

Sorry man, I'm done with Avatars favor. Thanks though.

Any thoughts on Mewing Lullaby?

[Tarage]

Sorry man, I'm done with Avatars favor. Thanks though.

Any thoughts on Mewing Lullaby?

Glad to know you gave up.

[Soundwave]

I'm trying not to fight with you in case you did not notice? So please be mature...give it a rest.

[Neonii]

I'm making as much sense as you do.

Explain to me why people would choose to not use Avatar's Favor full time if you took away the negatives.

And Neonii, I'm not here to be nice or make friends. I'm here to try to talk some sense into the people who are flooding SE with questions and suggestions that they should be beat in the head for. Yeah, I'm not nice, but I sure as hell am right.

I'm not trying to be the thought police. However, I believe in manners and respecting others ideas even if I don't agree with them. Maybe it's just me.

[Soundwave]

Sure I agree, some people sprout ideas and that is how the ball gets rolling. The idea does not have to be 100% solid. which you quoted "I do not know anything about game balance", of course I don't I'm no programer. I don't know how to make a perfect game world.

I'm a customer and I would hope they welcome all ideas...does not mean they need to listen to what exactly have to say.

[Neonii]

Sure I agree, some people sprout ideas and that is how the ball gets rolling. The idea does not have to be 100% solid. which you quoted "I do not know anything about game balance", of course I don't I'm no programer. I don't know how to make a perfect game world.

I'm a customer and I would hope they welcome all ideas...does not mean they need to listen to what exactly have to say.

Hum maybe they should remove favor altogether and let it be a native trait. I don't see why smn should not have something overpowered=p.