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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    I see the positives of using Crysta. You choosing to process your payment every month means there is no chance of a charge back or any of the other issues that plagued the old billing system. It really wouldn't be that hard for me to choose my deductions monthly either.

    The problem lay in being unable to purchase exact amounts of crysta. This is the part of the system that favors SE as you are now forced to overshoot in order to maintain an account. Guess what that means? You get stuck with varying sums of Crysta you can do nothing with.

    Everyone knows companies are in this to make money but cmon, its like bumping up the monthly fee without actually doing it. Sure, you get back your money if you play for the long term but why entrap customers? Is that good business?

    If they simply allowed customers to purchase the exact amount they wanted, this wouldn't be such a huge mess but in typical fashion they've upset people by giving individuals two crappy options to choose between.
    It still be a huge mess, they started the 3D secure policy to stop charge backs. Crysta, while it has its positives, and some people enjoy it. Just annoys the others, and there are plenty who are tired of being annoyed. I can only be so patient, and having to buy crysta every 30 days instead of just being billed like I have since 2006 is not my cup of tea. I don't do it anywhere else, and won't have to do it anywhere else. SE does not get to be extra annoying to try and stop charge backs (something that was partly RMT oriented in its selection) as if other companies don't experience them.

    I feel like we are sitting here while a company tests things us like an old dog with their ideas for future content.

    On a note to the people talking about the crysta cards.
    Who cares if you can (here comes the needless hassle) go to the store and buy a card with crysta on it? When I temporarily used visa gift cards for two months for this game I had to pay $17 for a $15 card and the rest on it was useless and eventually be deducted to 0 by the company if I did not use it. Those prepaid cards are always like that, and it is a waste.

    TLDR; Direct billing option or gtfo.
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  2. #432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaviane View Post
    Ya I looked at that too. I don't speak, read or understand Japanese unfortunately, I only saw references to WebMoney, but did notice that there was a response from a MOD to about as many posts there as here. I checked the French and German sites too this morning, didn't see much reaction to the change.
    Webmoney is worse than click&buy by a longshot; however it's the only payment service available in some regions like Russia and other countries that aren't known for having lots of gamers or people who buy stuff on the internet.

    One of the things that's really bad about them is you can't remove an account once created; I asked to do this and they said they have to retain all records for legal reasons (bullshiat), they said the only thing I can do is change the password to something I'll never remember and forget about it.

    At least it's possible to cancel your click&buy account if you wish, as long as you have no outstanding payments to make.

    Side note: LOL @ thread tags.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-29-2011 at 07:51 AM.

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    I used clickandbuy for 14 deactivated account now they want a copy of my birth certificate and passport so yeah not happening. Why is it so bloody hard to give SE my money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Further proof you don't know wtf you're talking about because you think Playonline is a 3rd party company.
    Playonline creator is SQUARE SOFT INC and NOT SQUARE ENIX.... But just because they merged you think is same?

    Quote Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayOnline
    Initially, PlayOnline was a subsite of SquareSoft.com and contained content such as online strategy guides and special sites for games published by Square (starting with Final Fantasy IX). It was introduced at the time of Final Fantasy IX's release, in which PlayOnline.com featured an online strategy guide that worked in conjunction with the printed version of the guide published by BradyGames. This subsite no longer exists, however. Square Enix integrated the site's features into their own site at Square-Enix.com,[1] in order to put up a site for the U.S. release of Final Fantasy XI.
    ClickAndBuy must be SE too while we at this....
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    EDIT: Point was already corrected some time ago, cg on being several pages late.
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    Someone posted on BG that they contacted support and when asked if there were other payment options other then C&B for direct payment, they said no and that the feedback they've been receiving since implementation of C&B billing was "OVERWHELMINGLY" positive.

    Clearly Mods are NOT forwarding our concerns to the proper parties, and it should be considered to start contacting SE directly about our concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xfreeplay View Post
    Someone posted on BG that they contacted support and when asked if there were other payment options other then C&B for direct payment, they said no and that the feedback they've been receiving since implementation of C&B billing was "OVERWHELMINGLY" positive.

    Clearly Mods are NOT forwarding our concerns to the proper parties, and it should be considered to start contacting SE directly about our concerns.
    That is just disturbingly pitiful. I planned on calling them next week, but now I have to spread work to my LS and others to call them because this is just stupid.

    Not a single person I have talked to in game so far has approved of the changes. I approve of the concept as many of us do, but this is just asinine.

    I hope that support rep was just misinformed and talking out of their @$$.
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    REGIONAL EQUALITY

    That is all we are asking for. JP Region is virtually unaffected by these changes--they are getting all the options implemented in parallel while we are getting cut off from the most favorable option. Fix this SE, or risk loosing revenue.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post157135
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    I'd like to know where this overwhelmingly positive feedback is coming from...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    I'd like to know where this overwhelmingly positive feedback is coming from...
    The Japanese.
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