Petition: clickandbuy the only way no,thanks.

[DerianX]

3/4 of my LS didn't even realize about this. None of them were happy about it when I told them. One of them doesn't even have a computer, so they're kinda screwed.

Lots of people going to get login failures after Aug.31 I bet.

/facepalm

[Leonlionheart]

So I want to tell people, if you do the transfer now, it very much seems like you have to start with one of the new payment methods come august. In just a few days. So if you're trying to hold on, DO NOT do anything regarding the transfer until after the august billing cycle.

I've also seen people talking about purchacing crysta in incraments of 100. I do not know about otehr regions, but here in the US you cannot do this. The minimum you can buy is 500. Take note of this. The 100 was just SE's example of how it is 1 to 1 and not a fact that you could buy 100.Actualy it's still always on until you manualy turn it off yourself in teh first place.

The public should know this.

I guess I must've gotten into the habit of turning it on and didn't realize.

[Runespider]

Seriously SE, loads of people hated the POL payment system, but it worked... why are you making it more and more difficult for us to give you money?

To save themselves some money, most companies won't add things that annoy their userbase to save a few bucks. Square like to be unique.

[Kari]

So much QQ.
People do have the right to complain about ClickAndBuy being the only way to automatically pay via credit card though.
Personally I'm just taking the easy route of buying Crysta with PayPal and Game Cards.

Lol'd at all the people nobody has ever heard of QQing about how they're going to quit or did quit because of this.
Seriously? Lulz.

Hopefully SE finds alternate payment methods, for those in other countries and such who may have a problem with this.

[Ilax]

I'm sorry but i think you guy only focusing over the tiny inconvenient then anything else, SE offer to pay with paypal or Ultimate Game Card that you can buy from any walmart, Game stop etc...

Of course if you are using "ClickAndBuy" crappy EU compagny then you have to pay the dumb fee, if you go that way, i am sorry but you not smart.

Register a PayPal Account COST 0$, you can hook your bank account to Paypal and transfer $$ from bank to paypal, and there also 0 FEE for doing that.

Pay anything on the WEB with paypal never have any FEE.

You can buy 5$ Crysta and then 10$ Crysta if you wan, still 0 FEE from paypal for doing double trasaction. You don't have paypal account? Then use Ultimate Game Card, once again, 0 FEE when buying crysta.

Now let go back to old SE payment system:

You need Credit Card ( If you have BAD Credit record, no luck YOU CAN'T PLAY FFXI )
If your parent are too cocky to give they #CC to pay the game, then once again you screw.
If your CARD do not support the crappy 3D secure (witch seem the case for sooooo many people) then no luck also.
Other option was to beg a good friend, then is like a marriage and you have to refund him every month. (Annoying)

And what now? Visa, MasterCard, etc really charging 0 monthly FEE? Really, that would surprise me big time.

New payment system, WOW all those thing i listed go away finally. Bad Credit record? NP you still can hook Paypal account or buy a stupid Ultimate Game Card.

So really, if you think less people will play FFXI after this major change?

Once again: PAYPAL cost 0 monthly fee, 0 fee for transaction.

[Malamasala]

I think the most hilarious part is that by not giving us a "pay exact price" crysta option, in the future they'll have to add a "pay exactly the missing amount" crysta option, which will be harder than the exact amount way.

But this is SE we are talking about. They are going to read our complaints, steal our initial crysta investment, then give us a "pay exact price" option so we can never get that overpaid crysta back.

[Ilax]

I think the most hilarious part is that by not giving us a "pay exact price" crysta option, in the future they'll have to add a "pay exactly the missing amount" crysta option, which will be harder than the exact amount way.

But this is SE we are talking about. They are going to read our complaints, steal our initial crysta investment, then give us a "pay exact price" option so we can never get that overpaid crysta back.

Is 5$ max overpaid... just give it to "red cross" if you quit the game, so SE don't get it and you can sleep better jeez.

[Byrth]

NAs:
* Use ClickandBuy (shady 3P service) to pay directly, and if you want to pre-load multiple months there's a surcharge
* Buy Crysta using a variety of methods (including Paypal) and have monthly payments automatically deducted from your Crysta pool. Unable to buy exact amounts, and you have to go do it every month so your account doesn't deactivate.

JPs:
* Have the option of directly entering their credit card information and paying as they used to.
* Can buy Crysta in exact amounts.

SE, delay this change until you've actually done the work for it. I lost enough friends when you guys messed up billing LAST month. I don't need to lose more because you're *really* messing up billing this month.

[Karbuncle]

Would all be a bit more comforting if it wasn't already shown the JP Can buy exact Crysta and can still pay directly via Credit Card(Was it confirmed?)... Yah yah Minorities get shafted etc.

Either way, I talked to my brother (who actually is in charge of our SqEx Account), and he says he's easily set up ClickandBuy before... Hopefully he's this lucky for FFXI.

Moving on, rather is so much easier to drive to a store and get a Gamercard itself is irrelevant if you ask me, People are complaining because after 7 years of the same method. a method the massive majority of us have grown comfortable with and accepted, They're changing the system and forcing us to chose between a shady company, or overpaying a small bit per month (which eventually adds up to a free month with some change left over, assuming you don't get banned or are forced to quit early for whatever reason, like life? then you can just donate it! small comfort for people on tight budgets)

It was simply an unnecessary move on SE's part, and while I don't feel "THE SKY IS FALLING", i actually support those quitting. If they had kept the old method but added these two no one would be complaining, no one, its the mandatory shift and obvious (if you're not naive) reasoning/choices behind the two chosen methods.

[malf]

So I want to tell people, if you do the transfer now, it very much seems like you have to start with one of the new payment methods come august. In just a few days. So if you're trying to hold on, DO NOT do anything regarding the transfer until after the august billing cycle.
...

Too late, didn't thought I will have such payment issue ... I guess SE won't do anything about this. So I guess I'll go to my backup MMO eve online (paying with paypal).