Seems (if you can tolerate clickandbuy) no 3D Secure is needed

[Inafking]

I am so glad I could inspire the post before this. I hope my friends in Europe enjoy it.

[Atomic_Skull]

The problem isn't with using an external company to process CC payments the problem is that Click & Buy is a very shady company. They are so bad that some banks will flat out refuse any transactions through them even if the customer wants it.

[Ilax]

Well, i just reactivated account that i could not play anymore due to 3d secure crap thing.... Used paypal to add crysta and bingo 5 min later account was reactivated.. No extra fee at all.

I kinda agree it sux to have to reload crysta every month, but now, it offer so many way to pay.

Idk i keep read horror about clickandbuy, imo everyone should just register a paypal account and enjoy the TRUST + no extra ripoff fee.

Jul 5, 2011 Express Checkout Payment Sent Completed ... -$18.27 CAD

That was for 2,000 crysta. [Not even a fee for CAD to US conversion]

[Alhanelem]

I disapprove of shady money making practices no matter the amount.

There's nothing shady about it. They aren't really hiding anything, and it's hardly a "money making practice." If they really wanted to make more money, they could probably go free to play and open up a cash shop with functional items for sale. It's worked for every other MMO that's switched to F2P, and even boosted their popularity.

[Runespider]

Well, i just reactivated account that i could not play anymore due to 3d secure crap thing.... Used paypal to add crysta and bingo 5 min later account was reactivated.. No extra fee at all.

I kinda agree it sux to have to reload crysta every month, but now, it offer so many way to pay.

Idk i keep read horror about clickandbuy, imo everyone should just register a paypal account and enjoy the TRUST + no extra ripoff fee.

you have to pay more than you need though, and continually have extra left over. When you finally decide to quit they will get that extra money left over cause nobody is gonna play an extra 2+ months to get there moneys worth. When you quit there is a solid reason and you're probably done at that point, they are just gonna pocket that left over from everyone. So yeah it's a ripoff, no reason at all that we can't get the exact amounts.

[Ilax]

you have to pay more than you need though, and continually have extra left over. When you finally decide to quit they will get that extra money left over cause nobody is gonna play an extra 2+ months to get there moneys worth. When you quit there is a solid reason and you're probably done at that point, they are just gonna pocket that left over from everyone. So yeah it's a ripoff, no reason at all that we can't get the exact amounts.

That almost true, but if you really don't wan SE to keep your "extra" 00.1$ to 5$, you always have the option to give your leftover crysta to "red cross" for japan nuclear disaster.

(keep in mind you can buy 5$ + 10$ if you wan with paypal and there NO SE FEE doing double transaction, and paypal also charge NO FEE doing 2 transaction.)

[Kraggy]

if you are either buying crysta or doing automatic payment through click and buy it does.

Only if you use C&B, smart people don't.

[Ilax]

No paypal account, no access to #CC, baam you can use Ultimate Game Card from Walmart, Game Stop etc and pay just by entering the Pin number.

Idk imo, for the small trouble it cause to some people, it accommodate way more people. I wont be surprise more people start play FFXI now, if you think about all those who got blocked by that stupid 3D secure thing.

You talk about hidden fee, since when Credit card don't have monthly fee? Trust me, paypal have 0 fee lol... Only fee i saw that paypal charge is when you receive money to your account, never when you use paypal to pay something, nor when you transfer money from bank account or CC to your paypal account.

Anyway, peple here should compare how much Visa charge you and see if the 5$ leftover is still that bad.

[Dauntless]

I wont be surprise more people start play FFXI now

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HIGHLY unlikely.

[Ilax]

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HIGHLY unlikely.

Well i reactivated account that i could not before because of 3D secure, so SE already made 1 more subscriber this month