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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    We could ask them to add more specific Crysta payment amounts, But I doubt they'd listen to that either.
    There's something about the bold part that makes me laugh and cry at the same time.

    Why should it be so hard to purchase exactly one month's worth without overpaying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    You have obviously never read international commerce law, have you?
    Microsoft terminated support for Halo 2 and didnt have to refund anything, its the same concept, as long as the crysta is still good for something (in this case FFXIV or other random online avatar crap) SE loopholes that law. Then once the crysta expires they can jot it down as revenue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I will when you show me where SE announced that FFXI will be terminated.
    You remind me of my teenage son. Has an answer for everything but is absolutely clueless as to how the real world works.
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    Vivik- Asura
    Do you know who you really are? Are you sure it’s really you?

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    SE is killing the game slowly but defenately faster as it was with level 75 cap.
    back in the days u had to grind things very often to get your stuff, dynamis,sky,salvage,einherjar.
    u needed a ls and u had more competition what makes u play longer, this isn't anymore since weakness targeting because most items drop as hell.

    many ppl left since abyssea (server were splittet before abyssea and shortly after abyssea they have been merged)
    now with some ppl leaving because of new annoying payment.
    and with weakness target implementet into salvage & einherjar, ppl who are actually doing it to get stuff will be done with it soon too.
    and if weakness targeting is still there at 99 most players will be done with the stuff soon and they will leave, but its more casual player friendly so many ppl will hop in and out. but still it has the risk that more ppl leaving the game as ppl join the game, so yeah the game could be dead in 2-3 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panthera View Post
    There's something about the bold part that makes me laugh and cry at the same time.

    Why should it be so hard to purchase exactly one month's worth without overpaying?
    because there is no extra profit involved, if u purchase 20 bucks then quit SE just made another 7 bucks off of you, however if you purchase 1,295 then quit, they get nothing, or having that extra 7 bucks sitting there becomes enticement to pay another month

    its the same reason XBLA is so much more profitable than PSN games, when someone purchases an xboxl game thats 1200 and they pay with a 1600 card they are sitting on an extra 400 points that either becomes pure profit if unused, or enticement for the consumer to buy MORE points cards to cover another purchase
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    Then just quit?

    Its a sad conclusion to come to but according to your moral standard you have no choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    You have obviously never read international commerce law, have you?
    And you apparently didn't understand it. If ffxi shuts down SE has OTHER products you can spend it on. When you buy crysta you never ever anywhere specify that you want that crysta for FFXI only. There is NO way SE would have to refund your money because you have NO proof that the crysta was specifically for FFXI and FFXI only.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    Microsoft terminated support for Halo 2 and didnt have to refund anything, its the same concept, as long as the crysta is still good for something (in this case FFXIV or other random online avatar crap) SE loopholes that law. Then once the crysta expires they can jot it down as revenue
    I am unfamiliar with this situation, did Microsoft require you to pay with American currency?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Then just quit?

    Its a sad conclusion to come to but according to your moral standard you have no choice.
    nah, cuz I have nothing against click and buy (I said hidden fee earlier I meant additional fee) and I will pay that, I would much rather SE use something like paypal where the additional fee is covered by the company not the consumer (as well as just being a much more reputable service) but that can be argued back and forth

    but as someone who puts gaming ahead of pretty much everything else in life I find it important to advocate of sorts against or for certain practices (DLC prices, DRM, rehashes with few upgrades costing to much, payment systems, on disc DLC) but regardless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanova View Post
    And you apparently didn't understand it. If ffxi shuts down SE has OTHER products you can spend it on. When you buy crysta you never ever anywhere specify that you want that crysta for FFXI only. There is NO way SE would have to refund your money because you have NO proof that the crysta was specifically for FFXI and FFXI only.
    Yes you have proof. If you don't sign up for FFXIV at all, that is proof enough there. You have to sign up for other products that SE requires you to pay in crysta in order for them to not give you the option of a refund.

    They are required by law to give you a refund if you only use crysta for FFXI, and they terminate FFXI. All you have to do is give them proof, which they already have (based on crysta usage information).

    Believe me, SE is not going to screw anyone over on this, because they are too big of a company to do so. The bad publicity would ruin them.
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