Petition: clickandbuy the only way no,thanks.

[Karbuncle]

I know many people including myself who take breaks from this game to play others (I know for a fact I will be stopping to try KotOR, and who knows where after that? Yes, I may go back to FFXI but I may go back to WoW or Warhammer, or all the other games I enjoy playing). and considering crysta expires after two years this is not necessarily a good method for everyone.

People have a right to complain about this, there is no reason their customers should have to do that work around in the first place.


They want to stay in the MMO field and they're still 100x behind Blizzard when it comes to customer service it's sad.

Either way i don't think hoping for it to go back to normal will work, if SE has shown anything in the past its that they really don't give a FK what we think or how we feel about their business choices... Our only other options is quitting.

We could ask them to add more specific Crysta payment amounts, But I doubt they'd listen to that either.

Yes, and i agree with you as i said right here. I'm only trying to point out there is at least one semi-painless method in this madness.

its certainly nowhere near perfect...

[Romanova]

If you are a NA customer, you can keep the old method as long as your bank or card company uses 3D secure and all that jazz.

This isn't true. You still have to use click and buy, and as some of us have said previously, some of our CC companies block click and buy because it is shady.


(edit: that is if you don't do the cysta method fyi)

[Romanova]

Yes, and i agree with you as i said right here. I'm only trying to point out there is at least one semi-painless method in this madness.

its certainly nowhere near perfect...

ya, I'm not so much arguing as pointing out the flaws in their system so maybe they'll realize that this whole thing is stupid.

[Korpg]

And ur quick to justify nickle and diming schemes, a dollar may be pretty worthless, but if 400,000 ppl let square have an extra dollar...

Its principle, i wokt buy gift cards or microsoft points for the same reason

Over time, this is not a nickel and dime scheme. And do you honestly think that SE will not refund the money if and when they decide to shut down FFXI? The have to, based on International Commerce Laws. Otherwise they are liable to refund the entire subscription costs to everyone. So which is cheaper, refunding the buck and a half to everyone for overpayment on crysta, or refunding thousands of dollars per player over the years?

You should really get over this whole "Corporations are out to screw the little people" idea of yours. All it will give you is ulcers in the long run.

[Karbuncle]

ya, I'm not so much arguing as pointing out the flaws in their system so maybe they'll realize that this whole thing is stupid.

One would hope so but judging by their past record...

we're f*cked :|

I mean really, Using such a shady ass ThirdParty like ClickAndBuy? to the point most CC auto-block it? What the hell is SE thinking?

[Arcalimo]

Dear SE,

Click and buy service is a garbage.
Besides of the bad reputation it has and the problems that are reporting some people that is trying to register to transfer their account, it won't even let me insert my real city name, it does auto-correct me to another town name that is near mine that its about 5 times smaller :S

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1...apadebitsp.png

So do you want me to put false information i guess? No thanks.

We want a solution, either give more options or use another service more serious.
And no, doing 40 km. to buy some targets to exchange them for crysta isn't another serious option. (that if even they are available in Spain in some serious videogame shops, i doubt it, at least on my region.)

So please, give us answers, and add support for other payment services.

kk, thank you.

[Korpg]

This isn't true. You still have to use click and buy, and as some of us have said previously, some of our CC companies block click and buy because it is shady.


(edit: that is if you don't do the cysta method fyi)

Yet, you can also talk to your bank and have them only authorize the $XX amount of payment per month for ClickandBuy.

And most banks will do that for free. It is that simple.

[Romanova]

Yet, you can also talk to your bank and have them only authorize the $XX amount of payment per month for ClickandBuy.

And most banks will do that for free. It is that simple.

and as I said before, if my cc company considers them a shady company I'd have to be retarded to use them in the first place.

And you said we could keep it the same if we were NA, and I was pointing out, that's simply not true. We are forced to either use Click and Buy or crysta through paypal just the same as the EU people.

[Finuve]

crysta guarantees SE a few extra bucks from everyone when they quit playing, and if their servers shut down they still dont have to refund anyone since the crysta is still good for other things, even if the players never intend to use those things

[Romanova]

Over time, this is not a nickel and dime scheme. And do you honestly think that SE will not refund the money if and when they decide to shut down FFXI? The have to, based on International Commerce Laws. Otherwise they are liable to refund the entire subscription costs to everyone. So which is cheaper, refunding the buck and a half to everyone for overpayment on crysta, or refunding thousands of dollars per player over the years?

You should really get over this whole "Corporations are out to screw the little people" idea of yours. All it will give you is ulcers in the long run.

crysta guarantees SE a few extra bucks from everyone when they quit playing, and if their servers shut down they still dont have to refund anyone since the crysta is still good for other things, even if the players never intend to use those things

quoting for truth to point this out to korpg. Even if ffxi shut down you can still use crysta for 14, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on about getting your money refunded because crysta isn't for one specific thing. They would tell you to spend it on their "other se products".