ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[Cream_Soda]

except voidwatch

So lv 75 content then?

[wish12oz]

So you lost on the "all relic but one can be better than empy" and try to move the debate onto the dumb pdif boost theory ?

There was no debate about any of the other relics, only great swords, and some kind of pdif boost to torcleaver matters in the context of what we were discussing, so ya, I'm steering the conversation that way, provide solid evidance or stop saying it has one.

[MarkovChain]

So lv 75 content then?

Never heard of dynamis II ?

[MarkovChain]

There was no debate about any of the other relics, only great swords, and some kind of pdif boost to torcleaver matters in the context of what we were discussing, so ya, I'm steering the conversation that way, provide solid evidance or stop saying it has one.

You are only trying to save face. All relics suck right now except the horn and the shield. This is the reality of the game.

[Kimble]

So the only thing you havent done is voidwatch, which is where the game is going in the next update and were you actually need things like acc, attack, etc. yet you know better than I do?

Voidwatch and neo-dyna are things you need acc/attack on. Sorry, you aren't auto capped there, you know nothing.

[Cream_Soda]

Never heard of dynamis II ?

Ok, so one new thing and the rest 75 content, cool.

[Kimble]

hes most likely only doing the EP mobs in those zones anyways and not the newer NMs higher tier mobs.

If he has, then he is just laying cause no way you are easilly capping acc/attack, etc on them.

And id wager to say that Relic blow/gun are the same if not better then their counter parts as far as hate control goes atm.

Dagger is totally better for THF atm.

[Chriscoffey]

You aren't taking into account what someone could be using for their Store TP builds OR their DA/TA rate increases. One set of gear doesn't end all be all in this game without first taking into account everything provided. I personally wouldn't use your set myself and the % increase of Dark AF3 isn't worth using as a full set compared to the other options for DOT damage.

[wish12oz]

You are only trying to save face. All relics suck right now except the horn and the shield. This is the reality of the game.

There are only 5 empyreans which outdamage their relic/mythic counterparts, and only on weak/average difficulty mobs, or inside abyssea, because they are crit based weapon skills, with the 1 exception of Katana. Kannagi is always better. You need to quit ignoring the fact that there are some relics that are better, and even mythics that are better, and stop focusing only on the 5 empyreans that are very good. This is what I have been saying, and will continue saying, I'm not trying to save face or change my story because well, I'm correct. Look at the empyreans you are not mentioning for instance.

Relic scythe is always better, relic club is always better(and mythic club is actually useful for the jobs role, and not just for DDing), relic dagger is always better, relic polearm is always better (than empyrean, and mythic is the best ever at all times) SMN mythic is best, PLD mythic is amazing because it breaks PDT cap, relic shield breaks MDT cap, relic axe is better than empyrean, relic gun is better for rng than empyrean, and relic gun/bow are useful when youre trying to keep mobs from attacking you compared to empyrean bow. There really is not much of a differance between Amano and Masa too, they do just about the same damage with capped acc, but once acc falls below cap Amano wins. Even Bravura can beat Ukon, the absolute best of the empyreans, all it requires is fighting decently difficult mobs, like those found in voidwatch. So anyway, this is me saving face now, cause I'm pointing out that I'm sticking to my original claims or something.... I'm not really sure how that works exactly, but pchan said I was trying to change my story, so it probably wasn't even worth responding to. Sorry if this last paragraph doesn't make much sense.

[MarkovChain]

hes most likely only doing the EP mobs in those zones anyways and not the newer NMs higher tier mobs.

If he has, then he is just laying cause no way you are easilly capping acc/attack, etc on them.

And id wager to say that Relic blow/gun are the same if not better then their counter parts as far as hate control goes atm.

Dagger is totally better for THF atm.

I think you missed the "18 alliance type event" of my post. Oh and while we are at it you do cap acc because grown ups buy food doh.