Relic weapons for all jobs.

[Sparthos]

COR could easily make use of Annihilator and ditto to PUP on Spahrai.

[Ironside]

COR could easily make use of Annihilator and ditto to PUP on Spahrai.

Maybe because I don't see Coronach much, but wouldn't Wildfire still be kinda heavily superior?

PUP on Spharai's the main one I wasn't sure about; they could use it, but I think -for now- Verethragna is better. Then again, most empyreans are better than most relics right now; the rebalance might make Spharai better for PUP, but I can't really see it making Excalibur beat Almace for BLU, or Annihilator beat Armageddon for COR.

[Sparthos]

Outside Abyssea, Wildfire isn't going to beat Coronach. Inside w/Fire atmas? No contest.

Armageddon (and Gandiva) are neat weapons for epeen swinging but the relic bow/gun still have their pulls that make them in ways better than their Empyrean counterparts. Enmity is a big a deal and being able to deal damage while delaying dying is crucial on a ranged class.

Annihilator plays right into the hands of a ranged COR. You have access to a huge amount of racc/ratt that the Emp lacks, a reliable WS in Coronach (FU Slug) and it doubles as the best QD gun in terms of base damage.

[Ironside]

Fair enough. I should probably not talk about specific weapons for jobs I don't play or really know much about, haha.

[Suirieko]

I doubt even Mandau would go up, since the climactic flourish update Rudra's/Twashtar would be much better than mandau/mercy

It's gonna depend on how the updated Mandau will be like. I will imagine that it would make a significant different there. Plus, the hidden triple damage effect would make it even nicer, melee wise for DNC.

[Suirieko]

Shameless bumping because I feel the need to raise the awareness of this issue >.>;.

[Coldbrand]

Outside Abyssea, Wildfire isn't going to beat Coronach. Inside w/Fire atmas? No contest.

Armageddon (and Gandiva) are neat weapons for epeen swinging but the relic bow/gun still have their pulls that make them in ways better than their Empyrean counterparts. Enmity is a big a deal and being able to deal damage while delaying dying is crucial on a ranged class.

Annihilator plays right into the hands of a ranged COR. You have access to a huge amount of racc/ratt that the Emp lacks, a reliable WS in Coronach (FU Slug) and it doubles as the best QD gun in terms of base damage.

You do know that while it doesn't have an enmity reduction aftermath Armageddon does have significantly reduced enmity on WS?

[Nidhogg]

There was no BLU PUP COR DNC or SCH Hydra Corp so there wont be any relic weapons for them, get over it.

[Seha]

There's the armour.
Balrahn wasn't a dancer.
Etc...

[Kimble]

While we are on the topic... while it prob isn't relevant at the moment, I always wondered why they didn't add SCH to the Morrigans robe set and Dancer to the Skadi set.

Hopefully they will add them before we get to augmenting the gear.