DRK Adjustments via Manifesto

[Neisan_Quetz]

The only time I seriously use defender is trying to proc red on weak NMs. Soon as I see red unclick defender.

If I have to use defender during any other time, my support is too godawful for me to be on War.

[Korpg]

I don't even use Defender. If I don't proc Red on the NM before it goes to 25% health or lower, I'll let it beat on me to get TP while I TP on a mob nearby. No point in having defender on at all.

[Zatias]

I like to use Last Resort and Berserk at the same time then take 2k from a mob weaponskill.

Really guys, can any thread stay on topic? XD (knows I am not helping with that)

[StingRay104]

WAR can survive better because they don't use Souleater to do damage. They don't fulltime it like most DRKs do.

Also, your argument with defender and using a shield.......what the heck? Kurd, just stop, you have no clue what a WAR is, so stop now before you embarrass yourself even more.

Your right I'm not a war, I leveld the job to 47 and hated it all the way. If I were a war I would most certainly utilize the most out of my job, and if it came down to tanking I most certainly have the best tanking setup that I could get, which would most likely have a shield, it depends really. Honestly a shield is not needed in abyssea a good atma set will do wonders for you, but the point that I was making and still making to leonlionheart is that war still has shield use and can effectively use it to help it take less damage and thus tank better than DRK. The sooner leonlionheart realizes that war does have more defensive potential than DRK the sooner this whole thing ends. I mean cmon I have given him every benefit of the doubt but he refuses to believe the facts right in front of his face. As for how to play war I leave that to people who hav ethe job leveled at 90, but don't come hear claiming DRK has more defensive qualities when you outdo us in that manner as well.

[Korpg]

Just because a WAR can equip a shield doesn't mean they should.

DRKs can equip shields too, why should they?

[StingRay104]

Just because a WAR can equip a shield doesn't mean they should.

DRKs can equip shields too, why should they?

DRK has no native shield skill war has the 2nd highest, besides Shield Mastery and Shield Def boost are war jt's.

[Neisan_Quetz]

No war is seriously going to use a shield even if they had to tank. If they can't tank it without gimping their damage with a 1H+Shield, a War shouldn't be tanking it.

Actually, Seigan + TE alone is probably more damage mitigation than shield will ever be for War.

[StingRay104]

No war is seriously going to use a shield even if they had to tank. If they can't tank it without gimping their damage with a 1H+Shield, a War shouldn't be tanking it.

Actually, Seigan + TE alone is probably more damage mitigation than shield will ever be for War.

Agreed, but shield is always the forgotten part of war's defensive arsenal. Besides war really is built to last longer on the recieving end of damage, with dread spikes DRK only hopes to last til souleater wears.

[Korpg]

The fact remains, you have dread spikes.

WARs don't.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Because it's a fairly useless one that doesn't really accomplish anything other than make you kill slower while still taking damage. The day shield blocks stopped reducing damage to 0 was the day shield tanking lost a lot of its luster (Was still no Seigan for awhile after then though). Pld benefits since shield blocks now prevent spell interruption, but War has no spells natively so this is a moot point. Also Ochain/Aegis, of which War gets neither.