ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[wish12oz]

You don't cap attack on anything that is decent challenge or high easy prey at 90. If he capped with 759 attack that would mean the mob had 759/2.2=345 DEF which puts them on mamoolja levels so nope. The high numbers on his weapon skills are due to no level correction, period. If you redo the maths I did in post #603 with no correction you get 2140 instead of 1782 average. For the info a capped attack torcleaver on level <= 90 mobs would average ~2600 with the gear I gave which is probably not very elitist.

So you're in agreement with me, and Atomic needs to go fight something that is actually difficult and tell us what the numbers are?
I wish my friend who has Caladbolg didn't quit, or that I bothered to do all these dumb pretrials I'm currently doing so I had one =/

[wish12oz]

It's funny how Atomic suddenly disappeared and won't give numbers for harder stuff since I mentioned I will have a Caladbolg in a few days. Must be afraid of getting caught lying and not actually having one.

EDIT: 6 Urds, 6 whatevers and then 6Tammuz/Chesma and I'm done with the 85.

[MarkovChain]

It is funny how you get corrected everytime you call him or me. Not sure what you want to prove with your next weapon either. Maybe you want to disprove math with parses ? It lije BG went back in time. Those weapon skills have a ftp and mods that were tested long ago, probably by JPs, and you want to go out of the wood and attempt try to prove you are right and maths are wrong. So far his numbers are corrobating the math behind.

[wish12oz]

It is funny how you get corrected everytime you call him or me.

More like, it's funny how you get corrected every time you say anything.
I remember this one time you talked about how you couldn't kill Dragua without super tons of earth resist gear and it was noob to brew it, then like a week later people found you brewing it, and someone showed it was easy without any earth resist gear or MDT: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/20...mnk/8/#1280665 It was somewhere in this thread around here.

Or that other time here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post54703 when I called you out and proved you wrong and you ran away and ignored it. Maybe you should do that again, cause I'm tired of talking to you.

And there's nothing anywhere talking about a cratio or pdif bonus for torcleaver, guess I'm stupid to think if people figured out the properties of the WS and how to calculate it's damage they would list all of that information on the wiki and other places, and not just list some of them.

Maybe you want to disprove math with parses ?

So this is ok when Atomic does it, but not anyone else? Not even a parse, Atomic listed 8? WS's damage numbers on a mob no one knows anything about and doesn't list gear, no SS's, no anything, just says "I had these stats and got these numbers" and you take his word as fact for proof of your side of the argument. How about we test the WS on harder mobs? How about we have Atmoic show some kind of proof he actually has a Caladbolg and a Ragnarok so we know he is at least able to test this stuff, instead of just listening to the person who obviously has something to hide and won't even reveal his characters name/server. It wouldn't be the first time someone came around on these forums claiming to have stuff and knew everything and ended up not having anything.

And BTW, as I pointed out earlier, Scourge is the better WS, if everything was even it would win, Torcleaver only does better cause it has better WS gear, unless it really does have some kind of pdif bonus that somehow mysteriously evaded the notice of the people who figured out how the WS's damage is calculated.

[Bumbeen]

just qqing because relic beats their emp is all

[Taint2]

The 35acc from Ragnarok is very very useful on DRK. (the crits are impressive as well) The reason Apoc is still the best DRK weapon is because you can cap haste and acc on the hardest mobs in the game, something you can't do with any other DRK weapon. Capping haste and acc is the current bane of DRK.

Torcleaver is a beast of a WS and its damage scales with TP which is a big bonus over Scrouge esp with items like Moonshade which guarantees a 5.0+ modifier.

[Atomic_Skull]

I stopped posting in this thread because A: It's not going anywhere and is now a complete waste of time. And B: wish12oz is obsessing over people that don't display their character info and is obviously trying to track me down in game by getting me to give details on my equipment.

Also I don't have Ragnarok and never claimed that I did (I'm not dumb enough to waste that much time and gil on not-Apocalypse) I have Caladbolg, someone else in my Ls has Ragnarok.

[Atomic_Skull]

The 35acc from Ragnarok is very very useful on DRK. (the crits are impressive as well) The reason Apoc is still the best DRK weapon is because you can cap haste and acc on the hardest mobs in the game, something you can't do with any other DRK weapon. Capping haste and acc is the current bane of DRK.

With Apoc you can wear the full DRK AF3+2 set and get all of it's bonuses and still have capped haste.

[Kimble]

No, he doesn't care what gear you have to "stalk you down" Just wants to verify what gear sets you were using in your "tests"

Im sure he doesn't even care if its a game screen shit and just make an AH gear set.

You're way to paranoid about people finding out who you are. If you honestly believe the things you are saying, you would have no need to hide who you are.

Seriously, if you are going to make claims like this, you need some proof to verify it.

Im not sure how hes going to "track you down" when you arent even on the same server.

[MarkovChain]

And BTW, as I pointed out earlier, Scourge is the better WS, if everything was even it would win, Torcleaver only does better cause it has better WS gear, unless it really does have some kind of pdif bonus that somehow mysteriously evaded the notice of the people who figured out how the WS's damage is calculated.

Using your logic : pup would be better than monk if it had the same martial art value or cor would be useful if bard did not exist. Unfortunately ws mods are what they are and your wanting to have your shiny weapon stay the best will not change this.