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  1. #41
    Player Toukai's Avatar
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    I don't think "Nerfed" is the right word for this, its more like rebalancing. We're getting more mp overall, and the less frequent casting means we're saving Mp in the long run. Ticks twice as long as the normal refresh spell and returns a lot more mp for the cost.

    If we get any Tier 2 traits, Mab II, Acc (for new endgame content @ 99) and perhaps a few others would be a welcome addition.
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    Drg for life.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toukai View Post
    I don't think "Nerfed" is the right word for this, its more like rebalancing. We're getting more mp overall, and the less frequent casting means we're saving Mp in the long run. Ticks twice as long as the normal refresh spell and returns a lot more mp for the cost.

    If we get any Tier 2 traits, Mab II, Acc (for new endgame content @ 99) and perhaps a few others would be a welcome addition.
    We got 300 mp at the 4 tic of the spell now we get 250 both are after casting. Again if they were pre balanceing this for auto refresh 2 that I could see but highly doubt we will see it. Rdm can get a 4tic auto refresh in gear easier then blu and snm can get as much as blu with gear and triat. While it wasn't that big of a nerf it was still a reduction in MP regen for what seem to have been a non issue.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    Rdm can get a 4tic auto refresh in gear easier
    How so? As far as I can see RDM refresh gear is just as easy to get as BLU can get...
    Hairpin = +1
    Emp Body+2 = +2
    Hands/Feet = +1
    Subligar = +1

    All of these are RDM and BLU friendly what am I missing?

    Edit: Just in case, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything like that I'm just curious what I might be missing for my RDM.
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    Last edited by Zagen; 07-22-2011 at 04:33 AM.

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    Oneiros Grip assuming notlolmeleeing, Moonshade for both, +1 refresh potency for Rdm and longer duration on self and others. Grapevine Cape or w/e it's called affects both iirc, +30 seconds.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    +1 refresh potency for Rdm and longer duration on self and others. Grapevine Cape or w/e it's called affects both iirc, +30 seconds.
    Those items require refresh effect so they aren't auto-refresh.

    Didn't remember the grip though! gonna look into adding that into my gear set ^^
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    Well both jobs are getting refresh effect... hence grapevine works on battery charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Well both jobs are getting refresh effect... hence grapevine works on battery charge.
    Oh I don't disagree with that logic, but Ravenmore said RDM could get Auto Refresh from gear easier than BLU which is what I was trying to find out if she was mistaken or there was gear I wasn't thinking of/knew about.
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    Oh no, it's pretty much the same in gear (excusing the grip), aside from the fact I had relic head on Rdm long before Abyssea, so the hairpin is actually more of a problem for me, can't find one at all. Will be farming for it later to raise my Ton hate in the process.
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  9. #49
    Player Zagen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Oh no, it's pretty much the same in gear (excusing the grip), aside from the fact I had relic head on Rdm long before Abyssea, so the hairpin is actually more of a problem for me, can't find one at all. Will be farming for it later to raise my Ton hate in the process.
    I thought tonberry in Abyssea didn't factor into tonberry hate, was that just misinformation?
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    I was told they did, but my hate isn't maxed in the first place, and I have no idea how many kills maxes hate in the first place. I'll find out sooner or later from killing them.
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