Dragoon Manifesto thoughts

[Ravenmore]

WTF does not hving red procs have to do with the pet dieing we lose all our power? If we could do more damage then war in abyssea no matter what we doing and still get passed over since we don't have as many red procs as war.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Actually we lose the Wyvern we lose over half of our TP gain...So making the DRG have a stronger pet is not out of the question at all, in fact I feel it should be the center point of the dragoon.

[Leonlionheart]

WTF does not hving red procs have to do witht he pet dieing we lose all our power? We could do more damage then war in abyssea no matter what we doing and still get passed over since we don't have as many red procs as war.

I don't know what you're so worked up about, I'm not even talking about pets. I'm just talking about the DRG.

But no, without Ryunohige there is no mathmatical way DRG, at this point in the game, could possibly do more damage than WAR. (assuming Ukon)

[Malamasala]

Oh right. Doesn't wyverns "feed TP" to the monster? I can now see why everyone hates DRG.

Honestly though. No pet should give any TP, just to avoid all the yelling from no-pet jobs about how we are ruining the evening with our massive TP spam. (Like 0% haste pets would come near the 50% haste melee with DA)

[Coldbrand]

Wyverns do have subtle blow.

[Dauntless]

WAR>SAM>DRG>DRK abyssea
WAR>SAM>DRG>DRK other
WAR>DRG>SAM>DRK Ryunohige

Fixed. haaaawhiteletters

[Ravenmore]

I don't know what you're so worked up about, I'm not even talking about pets. I'm just talking about the DRG.

But no, without Ryunohige there is no mathmatical way DRG, at this point in the game, could possibly do more damage than WAR. (assuming Ukon)

Wasn't reponding to you and I left out "IF we could do" drg would still get passed over. I will go edit it now so no more misudersatndings. We loss some tp gain we don't loss half our damage like pup would.

[Ravenmore]

Just to add more its been beaten to death but outside of lolexp it doesn't matter how much damage you can pump out. Who cares about that if you can't get the proc you need on the KI mobs to pop the mob your really after. I solo KIs to its fun but if I getting help i'm not going to waste the help by not taking one of them war or at the least nin.

[Dauntless]

Wasn't reponding to you and I left out "IF we could do" drg would still get passed over. I will go edit it now so no more misudersatndings. We loss some tp gain we don't loss half our damage like pup would.

Except our TP gain IS our damage.

[Ravenmore]

Except our TP gain IS our damage.

Still have a 6/5 hit and med and conserve tp and reg jumps and gear that enhaces tp on them easy to get to haste cap as well. We lose damage but we can live for a bit with out our pet, pups don't do as well unless they have emp. weapon. Still doesn't fix you can do all the damage you want in abyssea not going to make more useful then a 5/5 pearle war with all weapons skilled. A nin whm and war can farm emp. weapon all day with no problems. You can take more people but any gains you make in kill speed starts getting eaten by the herding factor.