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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    It's been selling well enough in recent months, so I wouldn't say it's a lost cause. Most systems at launch typically have some ironing out to do, so it's not as if it wasn't expected to be a good sell (i.e. 3DS).

    Microsoft doesn't do well in Japan excluding anything related to its OS, so the 360 was doomed to fail in that region. I only said what I said in regards to the US.

    I don't think FFXI will suffer any form of graphical or performance drop, because the specs on that gizmo are pretty good for what it's worth.
    That not a good measure of succes in to days market. I mean sh*t farmville(and the other crap like it) is kicking everyones a$$ lol. Its by far much better then lolps2 graphics and gaming on the go while waiting on the train, bus plane so on with out the bulk of a laptop, easy to put away makes it could would move units.
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    If it hasn't been successful, then I fail to see why Microsoft continues to support the system despite releasing Kinect for it, which sold well more than the Move counterpart. Like Sony, Microsoft has stated that they plan to keep the lifespan of the system at at least 10+ years, so I don't know how they could possibly make this commitment if the system hasn't been succeeding lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    If it hasn't been successful, then I fail to see why Microsoft continues to support the system despite releasing Kinect for it, which sold well more than the Move counterpart. Like Sony, Microsoft has stated that they plan to keep the lifespan of the system at at least 10+ years, so I don't know how they could possibly make this commitment if the system hasn't been succeeding lately.
    To date the original Xbox has yet to make profit, as in it cost them more to make than they made, and last I knew (altho I don't really keep up with what the Xbox does anymore just waitin on next gen, who really cares about this gen.) Xbox360 was in the same boat, which the PS3 is also in but at least the PS2 had tremendous profits to help cushion that. On a general scale the 360 was a total failure, the fact it has "out sold," the PS3 is in fact a glitch because of RRoD. Friend of mine has had 12+ 360's die on him and after the 3rd he had to buy new at half price and after 5th it was full price. Have several other friends that have bought 3 360's from stores cuz of RRoD, and it has been proven that actions like these have increased the number of speculative sales and overall money gained from the system (A very small point considering that MS still gets that money despite the fact they are getting it by serving us crap). If you don't believe me the recently did a report on systems active and it turned out that there were more PS3's with active accounts than Xbox's (again this isn't 100% accurate due to the fact not everyone signs up for xbox live or psn but it is still a very strong report as to what is truly happening in the game world). Finally MS and Sony for that matter make most of their sales from other aspects of their systems, MS with the dumbest idea your forced to deal with Xbox Live (ya you gotta pay more for internet on this thing), or Xbox Arcade, and Sony has PSN (Hell want proof of how lame Xbox is you have to pay for internet on it cuz its not included and you had to pay for HD DVD support at the beginning before that died). If any company other than MS had made the Xbox or the 360 they woulda gone bankrupt, but MS has all the money in the world to back up its system so that they can make money off its other little things.
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    The PS3 started turning a profit around the time the Slim version of it was introduced, which allowed Sony to start making a profit on cheaper-made consoles.

    The 360 is still doing better market-wise, regardless of whether or not sales are mixed between regular purchases or replacements/refurbishes. As long as Microsoft makes a sale, it doesn't care what the reason was for behind it, because it expects the customer to pay even more for it via Live and accessories.

    Anyway, aside from that, I'm assuming that if the medium for the PS Vita is some sort of card-based media like the Nintendo 3DS has, it'll be along the lines of SDHC in terms of capacity. I'd love to see FFXI on it, then; I have a feeling they'd release the game via PSN if the storage media wasn't big enough to contain it. I don't like long downloads. =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    The PS3 started turning a profit around the time the Slim version of it was introduced, which allowed Sony to start making a profit on cheaper-made consoles.

    The 360 is still doing better market-wise, regardless of whether or not sales are mixed between regular purchases or replacements/refurbishes. As long as Microsoft makes a sale, it doesn't care what the reason was for behind it, because it expects the customer to pay even more for it via Live and accessories.

    Anyway, aside from that, I'm assuming that if the medium for the PS Vita is some sort of card-based media like the Nintendo 3DS has, it'll be along the lines of SDHC in terms of capacity. I'd love to see FFXI on it, then; I have a feeling they'd release the game via PSN if the storage media wasn't big enough to contain it. I don't like long downloads. =/
    I for one was really excited when the news first leaked about the Vita because it was originally download only which meant no more file size limitations, but I'm also glad it now has the game card support. As for an FFXI release I've always thought that even if they made a PS3 version it would be download only on PSN, and thats a good thing. With any luck this will happen and they will also make it function for both PS3 and Vita (Like the PS1 downloads work for PSP and PS3) and eventually we might see an upgrade to graphics when SE realizes 14 sucks and 11 is their only cash cow now. Also the PS3 and the 360 are doing much better market wise but last I knew neither have gorren over the wall of overall costs for the past years so either system could be considered failing at this point, but the PS3 isn't failing as bad as the 360, and then theres the overall quality of the systems to consider. I used to have an Xbox (not 360) and one day I was playing FFXI on my ps2 when a powersurge went thru my apartment, reset all electronics in the house and fried the xbox even tho it wasn't turned on, and it was on the same power strip as the ps2 and tv I was playing on at the time. So basically MS makes good surge protectors (aka Xbox) lol, still can't believe that actually happened.
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    I don't know anything about Microsoft, but Sony broke-even prior to releasing the Slim version. Releasing an even cheaper console did wonders for their income, and Move just accelerated its growth.
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    Um you guys *do* realize that the real money on game consoles is made on the games and not the consoles right? They don't need to make a profit on the console sales for it to be successful, they just need to not loose too much money so that they have a profit margin on the games they are selling for it.
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    Of course, and yet, when the new version of the Slim was introduced, an exponential increase in revenue was observed because of the price point. I'm not saying it's their only source of income, I'm merely stating one possible source. Sorry it came out the other way.

    If the FFXI is going to be releasing on the PS Vita, I assume that it will utilize the Trophy System. That being said, it probably will copy over the Achievements from the 360 version.
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    All I can say is:

    In class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tezz View Post
    I thought the same thing at first (thinking maybe they'll drop ps2 now?), but the game, apparently, was designed & built with ps2 in mind. So don't see it happening either.
    ffxi was out in japan on the ps2 first. Then pc. We NA players got it on in the reverse.
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