[ATTN] (One-Handed) Relic Weapon Offhand Limitation

[Greatguardian]

You don't get the stat bonuses.

[Malacite]

Weird, thought for sure in that update note it said the attack/accuracy bonuses would still apply.

I can't find the exact update though, looking through ZAM's update history page.

[StingRay104]

I think its fair considering that DWer's can get great bonuses from offhand while 2handers only get grips that aren't all that impressive. Hell I'd be willing to support your claims as they make a lot of sense but if SE doesn't give us 2handers some decent grips to help balance it then your just asking for the balance to be broken. So what I'm sayin is fix this and add magian grips, and dare I say it relic/mythic/empy comparable grips.

[Cream_Soda]

It'd still help h2h because things like ODD and relics triple dmg proc would finally start working on both hands instead of just one

[SNK]

putting [ATTN] in your post isn't going to get you more attention than if you didn't put it there. So don't do it.

Could you please stop with the back seat modding?

But back on track, I happen to agree that the Relic not getting the stat bonus's in the offhand is a little silly. Truthfully I'd rather have the Weapon Skill and the Stat Bonus's unlocked for all one handed weapons no matter what hand you're holding it in.

[Cream_Soda]

putting [ATTN] in your post isn't going to get you more attention than if you didn't put it there. So don't do it.

Mods are in the front seat
Kick it in the back seat?

Gotta make my mind up, which seat can I taaaaake?

[Concerned4FFxi]

indeeed what you say makes perfect sense

[Malacite]

It'd still help h2h because things like ODD and relics triple dmg proc would finally start working on both hands instead of just one

Didn't they patch Glanzfaust a while back to make the OAT proc on both fists?

So why is it Verethragna is only one... and the offhand at that?

[Cream_Soda]

Didn't they patch Glanzfaust a while back to make the OAT proc on both fists?

So why is it Verethragna is only one... and the offhand at that?

Not sure about Glanz, I konw they did wargfangs (Magian trial wep), but Spharai's triple dmg proc certainly only work on one first, so Vereth certainly isn't the only one.

[Atomic_Skull]

Actually I'm pretty sure you do in fact get that stat bonus, but none of the unique attributes apply such as the Weaponskills, Job Enhancements of Mythics, or super-crits of Relics.

You don't get the Attack+35 when you equip Mandau offhand. I know this because I have one.

It's very tricky cause you do have to take into consideration, even though a 1 hand weapon user can wield a relic mythic or empyrean at the same time doesn't mean they should, if that makes any sense. What I mean is 2 handed users don't have the option to do that so in essence there would be an imbalance to allow such a thing to be done with relic weapons.

Is it fair that 2H DD's get 3ATT/ACC for every 4 ponts of STR/DEX? If it fair that a DRK gets +48 Attack just for being a DRK, or that a WAR can essentially hack the WS damage calculation with Ukon and Mighty Strikes? (seriously, a super hasted WAR/SAM with all of their abilities active + Mighty Strikes firing off double and triple self light SCs is just plain HAX, there is no other word to describe it)

Some jobs can do things that others can't, it's just how the game works. Also 2H DD's are inherently stronger than 1H DD's and would remain so even in the face of Twastar/Mandau THFs and Kannagi/Kikoku NINs.