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    Player Sama's Avatar
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    [ATTN] (One-Handed) Relic Weapon Offhand Limitation

    Can the dev team please consider removing the offhand limitation for one-handed relic weapon?
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    Your post doesn't make much sense to me. Since H2H are actually TWO weapons - one per first.

    Ive always wanted to use two different H2H weapons since the fomors do it and it makes em look cool. Just not sure how it could be implemented without breaking monk... Maybe have it so that each fist is one weapon? And you have to buy H2H in pairs? So you can mix em up? Thats all I can see working. Unless you are just talking about using grips.
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    Player Sama's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    Your post doesn't make much sense to me. Since H2H are actually TWO weapons - one per first.

    Ive always wanted to use two different H2H weapons since the fomors do it and it makes em look cool. Just not sure how it could be implemented without breaking monk... Maybe have it so that each fist is one weapon? And you have to buy H2H in pairs? So you can mix em up? Thats all I can see working. Unless you are just talking about using grips.
    When you put a one-handed relic weapon (i.e. kikoku) offhand, you do not get the buff from the weapon.

    This has nothing to do with H2H or two-handed relic weapon. It's as clear as it is.
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    He's talking aboit relics being gimped in offhand.
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    There's no reason we shouldn't get the ATT+35 from a 1H relic offhand when we get the Stat+15 from an empyrean offhand.

    Not getting the WS I understand, but not getting the stat buffs is just dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    There's no reason we shouldn't get the ATT+35 from a 1H relic offhand when we get the Stat+15 from an empyrean offhand.

    Not getting the WS I understand, but not getting the stat buffs is just dumb.

    Actually I'm pretty sure you do in fact get that stat bonus, but none of the unique attributes apply such as the Weaponskills, Job Enhancements of Mythics, or super-crits of Relics.

    That's the part that royally sucks, otherwise Vajra would be an amazing weapon for THF to off-hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    Actually I'm pretty sure you do in fact get that stat bonus, but none of the unique attributes apply such as the Weaponskills, Job Enhancements of Mythics, or super-crits of Relics.
    You don't get the Attack+35 when you equip Mandau offhand. I know this because I have one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    It's very tricky cause you do have to take into consideration, even though a 1 hand weapon user can wield a relic mythic or empyrean at the same time doesn't mean they should, if that makes any sense. What I mean is 2 handed users don't have the option to do that so in essence there would be an imbalance to allow such a thing to be done with relic weapons.
    Is it fair that 2H DD's get 3ATT/ACC for every 4 ponts of STR/DEX? If it fair that a DRK gets +48 Attack just for being a DRK, or that a WAR can essentially hack the WS damage calculation with Ukon and Mighty Strikes? (seriously, a super hasted WAR/SAM with all of their abilities active + Mighty Strikes firing off double and triple self light SCs is just plain HAX, there is no other word to describe it)

    Some jobs can do things that others can't, it's just how the game works. Also 2H DD's are inherently stronger than 1H DD's and would remain so even in the face of Twastar/Mandau THFs and Kannagi/Kikoku NINs.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 07-17-2011 at 12:56 PM.

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    Player Concerned4FFxi's Avatar
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    indeeed what you say makes perfect sense
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    putting [ATTN] in your post isn't going to get you more attention than if you didn't put it there. So don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    putting [ATTN] in your post isn't going to get you more attention than if you didn't put it there. So don't do it.
    Or people can continue to do as they please seeing as how you're not a moderator.
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