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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Oh you poor forum troll, Korpg. Your reading is affecting your writing.

    I wear haste gear because I can. When I melee, I am getting well over 500MP / minute because I generate a LOT of TP. The "debate" numbers I provided above are for a guy with Myrkr sitting around DOING NOTHING. That's really the only way to compare myself to a SMN that sits around DOING NOTHING.

    Newsflash, Korpg. Melee SMN can sit around in perp gear too. That's what I switch to in between fights. It's "idle" gear, which means DOING NOTHING gear.

    Again, just speaking down to you because that's where you chose to stand.
    Now that you know you can keep MP up without having to swing a staff, now maybe you will realize how much more of a help you are by not feeding TP while swinging a staff. Then you will realize that you can have 3 DD atmas on instead of 1 DD atma and 2 Regain Atma. I'm giving you that DD atma because VV is nice for avatars anyway, even though it has Regain too.

    This is, of course, assuming that you are in abyssea. Go solo Vouivre as a SMN with that staff, lets see how far down you go. Don't worry, I already solo'd him as SMN, lets see you do so. Bet you that you can't.

    Until you can solo Vouivre in Ifrit's Cauldron, you are not a Summoner, much less the type of one that you claim to be.
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    I don't know what is funnier, the idea that we wasted 600 posts arguing why a tp-spamming WAR is superior to a tp-spamming SMN (strictly in the presence of 3 other players whose only job is to boost the tp-spamminess of the WAR), or that you were there for all 600 posts and still believe that tp-spam is a major problem with ALL content.
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  3. #33
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    yeah, because feeding TP to mobs that have extensive AoE moves and/or hard hitting single target death moves is a smart idea.

    But then again, you probably haven't fought anything hard than Bubbly Bernie, so who can blame you for not knowing?

    By the way, are you going to prove yourself to be a real summoner, or just somebody who likes to hide behind other's work?
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    Sigh...gives up on avoiding reading through pages and pages of the same arguments again and again and again.
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    you know who to blame for crapping up the threads. we had a golden week of silence ^_^

    another very basic one..

    exploit avatars elemental properties, especially the sleeping gods (celestials)
    these NMs are strongly elementally aligned and will take far less damage from elements of the same alignment as them and the ones they are strong against.

    the same is true for status effects because in XI status effect resist rates are proportionate to elemental resistance. which usually means to say that for every 1 of the 6 elemental wheel elements, you have 2 avatars that are strong against it.

    I've found, from personal experience tho, that the 'strong to' element avatar usually fares better than the same element avatar, so I usually stick to that unless there are other trade offs.
    in other words, vs Cerberus, Leviathan would fare better than Ifrit, or something like that.

    you can also use this knowledge to kinda compile a list of what avatar is most suitable vs what status effects...
    like, leviathan for amnesia... garuda for petrify and so on..

    however, I think Poison and Gravity are exceptions to this. can't remember for sure.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arciel View Post
    however, I think Poison and Gravity are exceptions to this. can't remember for sure.
    Poison isn't an exception, don't know about Gravity though.

    Levi resists Poison like a pro
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    its one of those things that I don't quite remember cos the last time I remembered using Levi vs something with poison i don't remember a good outcome (it was Harvestman btw, long ago.. which is why i don't remember)

    maybe I'll go ahead and try it with Kukulkan next
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    Try it with Alectryon, he has en-poison that is pretty potent, you would know if Levi is poisoned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    yeah, because feeding TP to mobs that have extensive AoE moves and/or hard hitting single target death moves is a smart idea.
    Ahh yes, the extremely old, and stupid, "not even a WAR would melee those 5 mobs" defense. How original! Don't forget, when I completely gimp myself, I look

    just

    like

    you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Ahh yes, the extremely old, and stupid, "not even a WAR would melee those 5 mobs" defense. How original! Don't forget, when I completely gimp myself, I look

    just

    like

    you.
    Do you not pay attention? The Damage dealt/TP gain to mob ratio that a WAR produces is high enough to justify the use of meleeing on anything.

    Who else do you know that can hit for 400 non-crit/non-ODD constantly? You? Psh...

    And that is not on junk mobs either, that is on Tier 1 NMs in Abyssea, you know, the kind that would eat your face in a heartbeat. And that is with just a Widowmaker, not an Ukon.

    And lets not forget that the damage dealt is faster than you can produce. And more accurate. And actually contributes to a WS that does actual damage instead of trying to keep your MP pool alive.

    Oh, and lets not forget:

    You are already completely gimp, how can you become gimper? So, does that mean you already look just like me? Naw, you will never look like me if you continue to be who you are. I know that I am an inspiration for you, but you are taking the whole thing wrong.
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