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    Player Kimble's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    It makes me sad that no one even mentioned how incorrect this is.
    What is incorrect about this?

    I know for sure the timed mobs in the first zones used to be 2 hour, im pretty sure the mobs in the middle zones were too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Kannagi is the only empyrean that is ALWAYS better then its relic and mythic counterparts.
    I highlighted the word you seem unable to read and understand.

    EDIT:::: Cause I doubt you can figure it out on your own.
    What this means is that there are times when other weapons relics/empyreans/mythics have uses.
    Like lets say Youre on PLD and youre solo holding AV, are you gonna want to use Almace or Burtgang? Lets say that AV is casting meteor on you, are you going to macro on your aegis, or stay in your ochain?

    What I implied is that everything has its uses, and empyreans are not always the best thing to use, I even pointed out when Bravura is better than Ukon. The only one that this doesn't happen for is Kannagi, Kannagi is always best.
    Honestly I think your are trying a little too hard. I think you are a little butthurt about being unable to get a level 85 empyrean prior to chirstmas for one. For two, I think you are posting here in a crusade to attempt to convince someone (with no maths obviously, because like all BG trolls you suck to much at modelling game a DPS ; because it's obvious, at least for verethragna, that it is "vastly" [to use your previous terms] superior to relic at any time) that all Relics but one can be better than empyrean, so that SE doesn't eventually buff relic and so that they don't make your precious empyrean that took you forever to get worthless.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 07-16-2011 at 01:32 AM.

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  3. #543
    Player Kimble's Avatar
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    This forum really just needs a block function.
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  4. #544
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    I think you are a little butthurt
    with no maths obviously, because like all BG trolls
    You attempt to sneak in some form of "BG elitist" or "BG Troll" In all your posts in retaliation to anyone from BG. Does that not strike you as butthurt too? You seem to hate the place awfully hard.

    Just because someone posts on BG does not make them a Troll, and just because someone knows math does not make them a Troll. They speak their opinion, it differs from yours, Big whoop,

    You can disagree with someone, and intelligently explain to them why you feel their opinion is wrong, provide proof, and actually back up your claim with things other than blind insults and shots at their forum posting history. it is possible. Even if they're being rude, Its not reason to return the favor. Two wrongs dont make a right.

    Everyones human, We all make mistakes, but you shouldn't do this all the time. Almost all posts I see you make are some pseudo-insulting long rant about how someone-or-somethingsaid is dumb and/or wrong. or your wonderful quote, suck less.

    For clarifications sake, This has nothing to do with rather i agree or disagree with Wish's point of view, Frankly I was only interested in Bravura/Ukon parses. This is Only to point out you're being quite hypocritical.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 07-15-2011 at 06:33 PM.

  5. #545
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    What is incorrect about this?

    I know for sure the timed mobs in the first zones used to be 2 hour, im pretty sure the mobs in the middle zones were too.
    Dude, you're crazy. Nothing in abyssea has ever been more than a 1hr spawn and stuff like adze guku tunga ect. was originally 30~ minutes.
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  6. #546
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    Dude, you're crazy. Ill look up the change later in update notes. but was diff more then 30 minute respawns.
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    It was 30-45 usually closer to 30. Even stuff like Ovni was only 1 hour~ I started doing abyssea NM runs about 2 weeks after it was introduced and we would go in for 90 minutes and kill roamers 2-3 times a run. The hardest thing about abyssea back then was that we had no clue wtf proced and when so you could claim 5 Adze in a row and never get a KI.
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    I got somewhat disappointed when FFXI turned into lets duo box everything and get the best weapons in the game. Relics actually took more then just duoboxing some easy NM 25+ times. You had to run dynamis with a large group of people and hope to win some coins. Which is why all that effort on them seems to go to waste when you can basically solo an empyrean if you duobox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I got somewhat disappointed when FFXI turned into lets duo box everything and get the best weapons in the game. Relics actually took more then just duoboxing some easy NM 25+ times. You had to run dynamis with a large group of people and hope to win some coins. Which is why all that effort on them seems to go to waste when you can basically solo an empyrean if you duobox.
    Personally I prefer a system where i can do work and get a reward without needing to rely on others, over a System where 18~36 people funded 1 person a Relic, said relic-person dropping pearl/breaking-shell/jumping servers optional.

    Theres a sense of accomplishment yes, But I never liked the idea of 1 person reaping the rewards of multiple people, no matter how "content" those people were with helping said person.

    Thats only me...

    But I also feel the power should match the difficulty. Meaning Mythics should be the strongest :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Kannagi is the only empyrean that is ALWAYS better then its relic and mythic counterparts.
    When exactly is Ragnarock better than Caladbolg?

    Like lets say Youre on PLD and your solo holding AV, are you gonna want to use Almace or Burtgang?
    First of all, who solo holds AV?

    If you are solo holding AV you either have a WHM which renders defense meaningless anyway, or you don't and you are dead. In the first situation you want Almace so your damage is high enough to keep AV off the WHM and the second is completely irrelevant.

    Also, lolPLD. You should never bring PLD to anything, ever. It's a useless job.

    Lets say that AV is casting meteor on you, are you going to macro on your aegis, or stay in your ochain?
    Ochain is still better in overall usefullness on AV however.

    I even pointed out when Bravura is better than Ukon
    By using an example that is completely irrelevant in today's FFXI. If the application has no real use it may as well not exist. Defense does not matter anymore, not since WHM ascended to a higher plane of existence. Unless it can outright kill you in one hit a WHM makes you essentially unkillable.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 07-15-2011 at 06:26 PM.

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