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  1. #171
    Player ShadowHeart's Avatar
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    cant think of any super benefit anyone could get from it that would upset game balance.... few people get a few easy levels (abyssea does that anyways) maybe spam a few xilbaba ... (get a few quick seals) which wont affect a lot not like he dropping empy weapons or +2 items

    mind u i suppose they could of hit up titl... in attowha but time they would of farmed pops they maint would been up
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  2. #172
    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    I see a lot of people defend SE but there is a test server, yet they never test their patches. It is the most standard thing to do when you change code is to test things. SE always lets obvious things go unnoticed until we play. Maybe they should cut the monthly rate by 50% on patch months since we have to do their patch testing for them.

    Use your test servers morons, that is what they are there for.
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  3. #173
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    Checking cure damage on an undead mob is hardly what I would call first in line of things to test each and every update.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Checking cure damage on an undead mob is hardly what I would call first in line of things to test each and every update.
    In professional software development it's called regression testing, SE could perhaps learn about it.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    I see a lot of people defend SE but there is a test server, yet they never test their patches. It is the most standard thing to do when you change code is to test things. SE always lets obvious things go unnoticed until we play. Maybe they should cut the monthly rate by 50% on patch months since we have to do their patch testing for them.

    Use your test servers morons, that is what they are there for.
    One might inquire what base you this statement on. I mean the one that they do not test things?

    For one, the server can be seen on-line at times, and there is now a forum section telling you what they are currently testing even.

    Seriously, those who keep telling SqEX what to do, if you're so confident you could do it better, oh, I say goferit! I do understand the frustration and annoyance over such inconveniences, but what do people imagine they could ever gain from plain rage against the machine... I just don't get it. :S


    Luckily, I do not need to! \ö/
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  6. #176
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    You want proof? When they added level sync automations would disappear when you sync. So they had a specific patch to fix the problem. Servers came up. Level sync, automation disappeared. Later they patched it again, in patch notes it said to fix problem with automations disappearing when you level sync.
    After patch, level sycn, automations disappeared.

    Now if you did a specific patch to fix that problem, wouldn't you go onto test server, get a puppet, and another job, and level sync. That had to be one of the easiest patch tests. So they didn't just no test it once, they didn't test it twice.

    So no, They do not test their patches, we have seen this over the past 10 years, very obvious things that woudl have took seconds to test directly related to the patch they have implemented and would have pointed out issues. I can't see how anyone can think they properly test their patches. How ignorant are some of you?
    And the argument that if you think you can do better, then go ahead. That is such a dumb argument. These guys are programmers, it is their job, of course I couldn't do it, because I am an accountant. But I am expected to balance the books, if don't do my job I don't have a job. Most if not every programmer will tell you that testing is standard. You never release live code without testing it, if you do, you find yourself looking for another job.
    Se keeps doing this, why? Because their fanboys keep letting them get away with it. maybe if some of you take your heads of of your butt and say it is not acceptable, maybe they would properly test.
    And don't say they are short in staff so they can't give the same quality of service, because if this is true, then we shouldn't be paying for the same quality of service we got 8 years ago. We should pay for what we get, if they are runnign a skeleton crew with no intention of putting in any real effort then the monthly fee should be dropped to 6.99
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    In professional software development it's called regression testing, SE could perhaps learn about it.
    You forgot to mention the regression testing is (most likely) automated and during throrough regression testing is costly as they have to run the entire gauntlet of test cases previously run against the system.
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    Last edited by Neisan_Quetz; 07-13-2011 at 12:54 AM.

  8. #178
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    Wait s minute, your suggesting they write the code and push it out with out testing to se
    e if the code worked? Hummmmmm.
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    In our wake will be smoke fire and burnt charred remains of those that have fell before us, We will not remember their names, as they are no more, the next challenge, the next horizon is what we strive for and Demand it be met with Ferocity, We Grin at the Possibility of death, Fear no Mob that walks Vana'diel or it's Realms, there is no tomorrow, there is only now, For pride, for honor, for Glory We are The Knights of Pegasus.

  9. #179
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    anyone noticed that before the e-maint mobs, when stunned while using a TP move, would still have TP?

    I have since noticed that they fixed that too since the e-maint.
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    eh...was on COR earlier, not happy about the update for them, way to fail SE...

    Maybe PLD will be 'wanted' idk, really wish they would show some love to DRG and unlink Jump abilities like they have now done with NIN abilities, but I know DRG is like the red-headed step child of SE HQ.
    PLD has been wanted again since voidwatch came out so no idea what you are talking about.

    the COR update is not as bad as you all make it out to be.
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