FF11's growth limited due to FF14?

[Zyeriis]

None of it has ever come close to high quality and it's not what it is, it's what people do with it.

Square was doing something wrong just because it's on youtube?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Square was doing something wrong just because it's on youtube?

Not doing something for themselves makes them look stupid and lazy.

[geekgirl101]

If you want to try it again, I suggest waiting until the 24th(?), when they release the 1.18 patch where they're implementing massive changes like auto attack and adding "jobs" to the mix. Basically: Your weapon will decide your discipline, and each discipline will have a job that you can set (only starting with one option per discipline) to lean toward a specific playing style/combat role, where as when a job isn't set you'll be more versatile (or something along those lines). They're also adding some sort of materia system I think to augment equipment. They're also reworking enmity mechanics and adding icon indicators (green, yellow, red, and flashing red icons on each player to show enmity levels). On top of that, they're kicking guildleves to the curb as the primary focus of the game and instead are gearing those toward solo play while adding quests and other content as a better way to gain exp in a group.

Basically, the update will be pretty large and they've been postponing it (just gave a date recently) to make sure everything is working (hammering out the bugs and making last minute adjustments). They also claim this is just the first patch in a series of patches to start bringing the game up to acceptable standards.

Thanks for the advice, I'll hold up until then and give it a blast. I don't think I'd give up on FFXI even when FFXIV is finally beyond it's "beta" stage, unless FFXI turns into a ghost town with everyone then moving onto FFXIV.

[Glamdring]

None of it has ever come close to high quality and it's not what it is, it's what people do with it.

for your edification I give you... "2 girls, 1 cup"

nope, nothing wrong with you tube, social networking, all that crap. And FYI TK, this means I agree with you.

[TybudX]

None of it has ever come close to high quality and it's not what it is, it's what people do with it.

Really? Can you post me a link to some other site that offers 4K video resolution? Or how about name all the TV networks that offer true 1080p? The resolution youtube was using almost two years ago? Cause last I checked it was everybody else that was playing catch up.

Now, granted their audio is pretty much crap, but most people watch youtube on a PC, laptop, streaming to TV, whatever. Youtube's CD quality sound is perfectly reasonable for about 99% of the viewing population. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference between true 5.1/7.1 and stereo being faked into 5.1/7.1 anyways, at least not with the technology they have at their disposal.

But lets get to this other thing. How exactly is youtube worse than any other media outlet in the world? Last I checked they weren't politically or religiously biased (aside from doing what it takes to get within certain regions), which is more than I can say for... anybody else. This would be a good time for more safeface and backpedaling.

[Zyeriis]

Really? Can you post me a link to some other site that offers 4K video resolution? Or how about name all the TV networks that offer true 1080p? The resolution youtube was using almost two years ago? Cause last I checked it was everybody else that was playing catch up.

Now, granted their audio is pretty much crap, but most people watch youtube on a PC, laptop, streaming to TV, whatever. Youtube's CD quality sound is perfectly reasonable for about 99% of the viewing population. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference between true 5.1/7.1 and stereo being faked into 5.1/7.1 anyways, at least not with the technology they have at their disposal.

But lets get to this other thing. How exactly is youtube worse than any other media outlet in the world? Last I checked they weren't politically or religiously biased (aside from doing what it takes to get within certain regions), which is more than I can say for... anybody else. This would be a good time for more safeface and backpedaling.

Well...when you said "high-quality" you were referring to the video quality. When he read "high-quality" he thought of the quality videos(as in the content of the video). It could have been interpreted either way (I personally knew what you meant).

Edit: I have no denial that youtube is a cesspool, content wise. That content however, is completely irrelevant to the video brought up and is entirely off-topic. Just because it's hosted on youtube doesn't mean it's even remotely comparable to some of the other "things" on youtube.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

No. Displaying things in HD dose not automatically make them HD. No matter how much your upselling your resolution, it doesn't change the fact that the majority of the video there is off of some dude's phone or a camera with single digit pixels. I show you something off of my phone on your HD TV and it's still going to look like it came off of my phone and even though you can click some button that says 1080 on it, it's not what you're getting.
I suppose you believe 4g phones run at 4g?

[Ravenmore]

Really? Can you post me a link to some other site that offers 4K video resolution? Or how about name all the TV networks that offer true 1080p? The resolution youtube was using almost two years ago? Cause last I checked it was everybody else that was playing catch up.

Now, granted their audio is pretty much crap, but most people watch youtube on a PC, laptop, streaming to TV, whatever. Youtube's CD quality sound is perfectly reasonable for about 99% of the viewing population. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference between true 5.1/7.1 and stereo being faked into 5.1/7.1 anyways, at least not with the technology they have at their disposal.

But lets get to this other thing. How exactly is youtube worse than any other media outlet in the world? Last I checked they weren't politically or religiously biased (aside from doing what it takes to get within certain regions), which is more than I can say for... anybody else. This would be a good time for more safeface and backpedaling.

This is so true. Really the daily show is better to watch for news then CNN or Fox news. The 24 hour news channels is what is wrong with everyone to day and anything that comes out of Nancy Grace's mouth.

In to days market you get one shot at since so many games out there that offer more for less. Even PvP isn't as big of a draw for some players anymore. With more FPS online play being the center of the whole production with single player as the after thought. Now if you mess up your done, IDK what it will be like in Japan but that might be the only place SE can expect much out of.

MMOs deal on addiction if it doesn't give that hook riight away the player will move one to the next drug aka game and try it. If they become hooked on that game getting to try a game that they aready wrote off will be hard. While you can get the short term bump from the people that jump around MMOs but these people make little money for the company.

FF14 might get players that didn't like WoW or its clones but these people might also be starwars nuts and will jump on the new starwars MMO. To many niche games out there now even some of the free to play games offer things that FF14, WoW or other niche games lack to a large number of people.

[TybudX]

No. Displaying things in HD dose not automatically make them HD. No matter how much your upselling your resolution, it doesn't change the fact that the majority of the video there is off of some dude's phone or a camera with single digit pixels. I show you something off of my phone on your HD TV and it's still going to look like it came off of my phone and even though you can click some button that says 1080 on it, it's not what you're getting.
I suppose you believe 4g phones run at 4g?

It is what you make it. If it's uploaded in 1080p, and you click 1080p and have a monitor or TV that can display 1080p... omg, 1080p!!1! People can upload something as 1080p that is not 1080p, yes, but that doesn't mean other people can't/aren't uploading things in 1080p. Pay close attention to the italics before you make your next idiotic post.

Also, the reason most people up-scale their videos on youtube is to get access to that CD quality sound, which isn't available under 780p as far as I know (I could be wrong, it's been a while). If you had any idea what you were talking about you might have picked up on that.

[Atomic_Skull]

MMos don't have to die, they can keep going. Though the way SE is they will kill off games rather then leaving the consoles behind, when anyone with half a brain that seen what happen to FF11 witht the PS2 won't bother going though the samething again latter down the road. Trying to make MMOs for consoles is death for MMOs plain and simple.

EVE Online has actually increased it's subscribers over the years because CCP has worked to prevent stagnation and periodically upgraded the games technology.