[dev1017] Zanshin Attacks and chat log

[Ryozen]

Hasso's new Zanshin rate works independently and is significantly less than 45%, maybe 10-15% (Only had 5mins of parsing before I had to leave), so I would also presume any enhances Zanshin gear only applies if you missed to proc Zanshin.

What gear were you wearing that had Zanshin bonuses, what sub were you using, and what were you fighting?

Thanks for the reply, but your post so far doesn't contain much information.

[Invasion]

No Zanshin gear, /NIN and Fortifications in Castle Zvhal or w/e the spelling.

[Invasion]

I was literally there for 5 minutes, thought I'd start from just trait Zanshin and work my way up, but I had to leave. There's no way it's based of your job trait unless I was extremely unlucky with proc.

[Ryozen]

It leaves Zanshin gear open, however. It will be very disappointing indeed if it has no effect on the Hasso proc rate.

[Malacite]

No Zanshin gear, /NIN and Fortifications in Castle Zvhal or w/e the spelling.

I was literally there for 5 minutes, thought I'd start from just trait Zanshin and work my way up, but I had to leave. There's no way it's based of your job trait unless I was extremely unlucky with proc.

So basically you eyeballed it for 5-min and are pulling stuff out of your...


Yeah, can we get some proper testing once the servers are back up please?

[Invasion]

Only if you promise not to 4hit your GK.

Also, if you read what I wrote I said I parsed it for 5 minutes, not eyeballing. Even with 5 minutes works it's fairly easy to work out the proc rate isn't near 45%, or like I also said - I could have just been unlucky.

[hiko]

very small samples :
ada mobs in A-T, katana strap, domaru+2,ace's, sugemino, 0DA gear/trait

# Melee Attacks # Melee Rounds Attacks/Round # Extra Attacks
195 ------- 167 ------- 1 ------- 28
# +1 Rounds # +2 Rounds # +3 Rounds # +4 Rounds # >+4 Rounds
28 ------- 0 ------- 0 ------- 0 ------- 0

# MultiAttack Rounds MultiAttack % Kills w/Min Attacks Kills w/<Min Attacks
28 ------- 17,18 % ------- 4 ------- 0

Missed First Attacks # DA w/Missed First Possible Zanshin %
10 ------- 7 ------- 70,00 %

same gear+ atma of solitary one 5%TA(/cry ,mess multi attack) enhance zanshin (+30%?)

# Melee Attacks # Melee Rounds Attacks/Round # Extra Attacks
296 ------- 213 ------- 1 ------- 83
# +1 Rounds # +2 Rounds # +3 Rounds # +4 Rounds # >+4 Rounds
56 ------- 12 ------- 1 ------- 0 ------- 0

# MultiAttack Rounds MultiAttack % Kills w/Min Attacks Kills w/<Min Attacks
69 ------- 32,55 % ------- 1 ------- 0


Treat As:

Multi-attacks per attack (2x/3x):

# Double Attacks DA Rate Perc. DA # Triple Attacks TA Rate Perc. TA
56 ------- 26,42 % ------- 82,35 % ------- 12 ------- 5,66 % ------- 17,65 %

dont have HG nor nanatsuya

will run bigger test (with wooden GK) when i can let my char auto attack over night on fortalice (with no maint..)

[hiko]

quick testing with kikugosaku (+ myochin+1 that have been storaged for so long I forgot they had zanshin)

309 mele attack, 55 extra attack, 55 +1 round, 0 +2 round

THAT JUST SUCKS

[Malacite]

Since you're apparently so able to talk shit about the testing that others are doing, why don't you come up with the definitive answer, Malacite?

Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Enjoy the report button.


Also, 5 minutes of blindly swinging does not make a definitive test - need to test it longer both with and without Zanshin mods, not just swing for 5 min with no gear on and then declare that +Zanshin doesn't work when you didn't have any +Zanshin on anyway.

[Ryozen]

Hey, thanks for quoting my comment. It would have been lost otherwise.

You are the only one who has yet to provide anything useful to this thread (or even this forum section), and yet you slink in here talking trash to people who are contributing first impressions.

Put out or get out.

Do some testing, or go the hell away with your nonsensical 4-hit builds (OMG GUISE I JUS SED POSIBLE LOL) and other ilk.