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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaviane View Post
    I think it's perfectly fine to close/lock your own thread, especially when a post made for fun turns into a brawl/hate fest against other players/forums/SE/Devs/Mods. That is not positive or useful discussion. To bad it seems to be the general direction most Forum users take these days. We all have opinions and are entitled to them, but it would be nice to see people lighten up and remember this is just a game.
    Mods/GM's/People-who-get-paid-to-do-this Should then Close the threads. It should not be at Player Discretion.

    You know why? GMs/Devs are paid to be neutral, the OP is not. He can be whiny and close a thread just because someone says "I don't like your idea". Not everyone has as noble a cause and self control as you seem to make it sound.

    The problem is just because while yes, you make it sound like a logical stop, not everyone who makes a thread is logical, and sometimes OP's close a thread simply because they didn't get the exact response they wanted.

    It leads to people being unable to discuss topics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackastheripper View Post
    I like the option. I have used it. It is great for when trolls and idiots come and derail a thread that has an actual purpose with flaming and such. I say keep it!
    case and point. He not only closed his topic but now insults the posters in that topic, acting no better than they were.

    People get power-hungry when they get the slightest bone tossed at them, they'll abuse the locking ability and more often than not make a snappy quip before locking the thread.

    Its just something only Mods should do. No other forum allows you to lock your own thread for good reason, Average people aren't logical or Neutral, Devs/Gms are paid to be. even though they aren't perfect, they're fair more reasonable than the average poster.
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    GMs might be paid, but I doubt any of the mods get paid at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    When your subject is changed to mean something else, why should you want it left open when the topic it was started on isnt the answers you are getting back are on a totally different subject. The thread yesterday turned form a discussion about lotting rules into a discussion about what linkshell rules should or should not apply. It had nothing to do with the topic needing to be discussed but the thread was hi jacked into a totally different discussion. This was why the original thread was closed. If people dont want to respond to the questions being asked but decide to go off topic why shouldnt the original op close it.
    Because if the answer isn't one you don't like, and you close it because you don't like the answer, it is the same as running away from the main problem. Maybe your point of view is the one that is incorrect, not everyone else's point of view.

    Think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    GMs might be paid, but I doubt any of the mods get paid at all.
    The moderators are the same people as the current GM staff. They handle both in-game and in-forum issues. For example, I've had some hilarious GM calls answered by Emdub.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post44035

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    case and point. He not only closed his topic but now insults the posters in that topic, acting no better than they were.
    I am not insulting anyone. If you go back and look at the ONE thread of mine I have closed, it got completely DERAILED by people who came in to purposely troll and flame it. They were in fact being idiots. I even gave 2 warnings asking that the thread please be brought back on track or I would close it. People didn't listen, so I did. I didn't say everyone in the topic was an idiot but by page 3 of postings, the thread by that point had absolutely nothing to do with the original post. I DON'T agree with people who close threads just because they get disagreed with. If you can't stand to have a discussion with people who both agree and disagree with you, you missed the point of a discussion. That kind of abuse is what makes people want an option like this gone. I DO agree with someone being able to close their own thread because trolls and idiots flame and derail it. This kind of abuse is what makes this option a great idea. Sadly, both sides of this coin can't be controlled by anyone. I stand by my previous statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    My statement still stands, when you ask specifically for answer to If you could change the lotting system as it stood in SE what would you change, turned into some debate about linkshells right to make rules or not what the original topic was about at all.
    Your post was more about warning threads and a roundabout way of saying you see nothing wrong in ninja lotting since it's not breaking the ToS. The "what would you change about the lotting system"-question was thrown in at the end as what seemed like an afterthought.

    You were the one bringing up linkshell lotting rules etc - in your very first post. Doing that, you can't expect people not to respond to it.
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    while i think locking your thread because you don't agree is wrong i do have to say both www.gamefaqs.com and www.gamespot.com let there users lock there own threads once they reach a sertin level of karma.
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    am dyslexic and have a learning disablement from when i died as a baby and sustained brain damage do to lack of oxygen pleas pardon my bad spelling and grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    Actually it was a quote from someone else that i started as a new thread to start looking at a way to review the lotting system.
    The first paragraph was a quote, yes - not the rest. The post can still be read here:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post134088
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    I love how the examples of abuse of power keep rolling in.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ardcore-flags.

    Closed because people didn't agree. This power should be Rep/GM hands only...
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    Being able to close a thread is a necessary tool.
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