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  1. #1211
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    Enhances Avatar Attack and Defense is much better than Enhances Favor. Karura > Horn.
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  2. #1212
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Useless buff is not much better than useless buff. Karurua !> Horn.

    +2 refresh > -2 perp cost.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 06-29-2011 at 04:37 AM.

  3. #1213
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    Your avatar has never taken a hit for you?
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  4. #1214
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Defense bonus is virtually meaningless?

    If I'm concerned about my avatar's ability to take hits, I'd be using PDT atmas and/or gear, not a crappy headpiece with pet defense +.
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  5. #1215
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    Not at all, it's just that the only SMN who bothered with a defensive build was me. Fortunately, I have 2 easy demonstrations that avatar defense is important:

    First, solo agressor antlion in Attowah with DG/Mounted Champion/Minikin with Karuna (I'm assuming no Hverg, VV will work fine as well). My latest 5 fights show that Garuda can almost survive the whole fight. Wait for the next antlion:

    Demo 1) Remove Karuna. Garuda will die before the Antlion is half-dead. Resummon.
    Demo 2) Use Favor. Garuda will be pummelled into oblivion. Resummon until you are convinced that avatar defense works.
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  6. #1216
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Not at all, it's just that the only SMN who bothered with a defensive build was me.
    Absolute guarantee: The Defense Bonus on that headgear is responsible for about 0.001% of the total reduction in damage taken by the avatar in a proper defensive setup. Take it off. You will see no difference. Guaranteed.

    Calling TOTAL bulls**t on that defense bonus changing "survives whole fight" to "doesn't las half the fight".

    Post video proof showing same behavior, same atmas and same gear except for hachigane in two fights of NM we don't care about if we have all this stuff already. Til then, you're blowing smoke just like with every other case of you dodging requests to post your gear.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 06-29-2011 at 04:57 AM.

  7. #1217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Not if you are DDing or tanking. So yah, for you.
    insignificant boost ot def/atk during avatar auot attack< +1mp per tick
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Enhances Avatar Attack and Defense is much better than Enhances Favor. Karura > Horn.
    Each post proves how little you know about SMN
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  9. #1219
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Not at all, it's just that the only SMN who bothered with a defensive build was me. Fortunately, I have 2 easy demonstrations that avatar defense is important:

    First, solo agressor antlion in Attowah with DG/Mounted Champion/Minikin with Karuna (I'm assuming no Hverg, VV will work fine as well). My latest 5 fights show that Garuda can almost survive the whole fight. Wait for the next antlion:

    Demo 1) Remove Karuna. Garuda will die before the Antlion is half-dead. Resummon.
    Demo 2) Use Favor. Garuda will be pummelled into oblivion. Resummon until you are convinced that avatar defense works.
    The defense is like +10 DG and Mounted champion are whats keeping that Garuda alive
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  10. #1220
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    People use avatar's favor?
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