As the first on this thread, a serious question...

[Jeanluke]

Yeah I agree. Crafting in comparison to the ease in leveling does appear more daunting. Almost enough to scare people away. Hopefully something will be done to give incentive to craft again. Not to put down all the naked leveling out there, that's all fine and dandy(hats off to you). Gear is helpful though especially if you are going to solo.

[Todo]

Well since all of you are just commenting on how you help new players, I thought I would give you a perspective from an actual new player.

My free trial started on January 3rd. So I'm two months into this game.

You all comment on how easy it is to make money, but honestly, in every other MMO I've played I've hit the money cap, or been extremely close, and in this game I have had nothing but problems making money. I don't know if you are in denial, but the economy is seemingly dead in this game. FFXIAH, for my server at least, rates an item selling "Very Fast" as 10-12 stacks a day. That, to me, is not very fast. Things take at last 2-3 days to sell, and when you can only have 7 items up at a time, it's EXTREMELY frustrating.

Many of you say that new players just ask for help constantly, and don't learn to play their class. I would have to agree with you in most cases that this is true. My LS that I'm in has new people join constantly, and they are always like "So who wants to come PL my party?" "Who's gonna help me do X?" etc. It's like they just expect it.

However, I have been playing MMO's for 9 years. I don't expect help from people, and I take every measure possible to learn as much as I can about my job, and if I can't solo something at my current level, I will simply wait until I get high enough to solo it myself. I like to believe I don't follow the new person stereotype, I have asked for help one time since I started playing, and that was when I was running my Mule to Jeuno, and I made my HP in Meripherated (Sp?) Mountains, and I couldn't get past this damn Skink in the Sauromugue Champaign, and kept dying, and I was stuck in the middle of no where, so I asked for an escort to Jeuno.

I will also probably be forced to ask for help for my Limit Breaks, because I've been told that even as a Pup I will be unable to solo them, which really annoys me, because asking for help is one of my least favorite things to do.

I'm just trying to show you that all new people aren't these helpless idiots that don't know how to do anything for themselves.

I've unlocked every job myself, well except Samurai and Ninja I guess, but I didn't ask for help, someone was helping a LS member do it so I just tagged along. But I unlocked Sch, Bst, Dnc, Pup, Blu, Drk, and one other by myself.

However, I am still 1-2 in Nation missions, because I raged when the guide told me to go click on the ??? in the Kings Tomb, and when I did, it teleported me to some random place where I was instantly one shot by a Bat. Now I'm too angry to try that nation mission again :b lol.

I've read every guide on Pup's, though a lot of it doesn't seem to add up to how my automaton acts, so I'm kind of making up some of it as I go along, and a lot of the guides are outdated, which sucks, but yeah.

Finally, I didn't get my sub job till I was a 37 monk, because I didn't want to ask for help killing a Bogy.

So, please, don't lump all new players into the "clueless morons with no idea what they're doing." I skill chain, I magic burst, and I rage when people just randomly blow their WS without announcing their TP and thus giving no opportunity for anyone to chain with them.

(:

[Legomike]

youre way ahead of the aholes then. /clap

[viion]

Everyone was new and helpless at some point, so anyone hating on them is just a pure hypocrite and has way to much ego. I was a very hardcore play years ago and quit about 1/half years ago? Just after the first ever addon was release.

I came back as I saw the game on steam for like $4 and figured me and my friend would give it a shot but only just got time to play it now (work n all).

In my opinion this game is still extremely unwelcoming to the starter player. I know most things and how to do missions and what not but levelling is still very slow unless you spend time soloing (which i hate in an mmo) or just drag to 30 and hope to leech but that is extremely unlikely unless you're a returning character coming to a server with dedicated friends.

Finding money is still very difficult, I'm casual and do not have time to be farming hours on end to scrape up a little that hardly sells on the AH. I got about 10 stacks of crystals and placed 7 up on Jeuno and even those took 2 days to sell when I kept adjusting them to go lower and lower. Though I'm not too worried about Gil right now as I'm sure I'll find ways to scrape by later on. Just a little sad is all.

But coming back my main concern is ways to level. I went to dunes and it was completely empty, I dont even know if people level there anymore lol. FoV is not very amazing when around level 5-10 you're only getting about 300 EXP for the reward which is nothing.

I'm very happy they removed a lot of the caps which will make things easier once I'm levelled, its just getting to the levelled part. My healing is low my cure does 12hp and mobs hit me for about 20 so its almost completely useless.

Will have to see how it goes and hopefully levelling speed and locations will pick up.

[Lamer]

I am new to this game. I have been playing for about a week. I play on Cerebrus server using the same name as my forum name. I picked Cerebrus because this website I went to during registration said it was one of the most popular [ http://www.ffxiah.com/database ]

Here's my experience:
ask for help - get ignored.
try to talk - get ignored.

I solo using those feild manuals. I get money that way, too. I am level 21 now. Until earlier today I had never even been in a party. This is because most people are not very friendly. Luckily I went to meet my IRL friend in the game [he started in Bastok and I started in Windurst] and someone who was scanning players found us (because we had no second job) and invited us into a chatroom/linkshell [of 'new and returning players' which constists of roughly 6 people]. Maybe my experience will change now that I have found people with whom to talk. Else: I will continue to google and play. NBD.

I really like this game. I don't care that it is slow because I solo and do my own thing. I don't understand what most of you are writing about re: abyssa, but i don't care. The only thing that hurts new players are the ignorant people who ignore them. Just my .02

[Saefinn]

I don't know what other servers are like but I've had a fantastic experience on Asura, I've got a decent LS and I've been a member since October. It's just a matter of finding the right linkshell - people do shout outs in Jeuno and Whitegate for them, you can probably call out asking for one. When you get into partying you might meet somebody with a pearl sack who can give you a linkshell.

As you're level 21, you might want to stick around Qufim Island with your 'Seek Party' flag up and you may get a party, but the trouble is, it can sometimes be really easy to find a party, other times you could be waiting ages. Normally what I do is solo mobs not too far from where people camp - so at level 21 I would be able to solo Valkurm Dunes, so I'd join a party there. Level 30, solo Qufim. So at least you're earning exp. Though as a level 21, people might want to sync to your level in Qufim.

[viion]

Due to lack of players in some areas/certain times and how unhelpful some are, I've gone back to the oldschool way of using a friends account to PL me and my buddy and now i just make my own PT and not have to worry about dying and it taking a long time. So we'll see how this goes.

[Saefinn]

Yeah, that's why I tend to do stuff that doesn't require a party during those hours, usually it's when the US is asleep, during that time I might score lucky if there's other Brits online or even some Japanese. But the worst I find is looking for healers and tanks and finding some people are unreliable, hence a Yuhtunga party one time took 1 hour 30 minutes to start, I am glad half the party was from my LS and they also had the time to spare.

[Ruvion]

Well since all of you are just commenting on how you help new players, I thought I would give you a perspective from an actual new player.

My free trial started on January 3rd. So I'm two months into this game.

You all comment on how easy it is to make money, but honestly, in every other MMO I've played I've hit the money cap, or been extremely close, and in this game I have had nothing but problems making money. I don't know if you are in denial, but the economy is seemingly dead in this game. FFXIAH, for my server at least, rates an item selling "Very Fast" as 10-12 stacks a day. That, to me, is not very fast. Things take at last 2-3 days to sell, and when you can only have 7 items up at a time, it's EXTREMELY frustrating.

Many of you say that new players just ask for help constantly, and don't learn to play their class. I would have to agree with you in most cases that this is true. My LS that I'm in has new people join constantly, and they are always like "So who wants to come PL my party?" "Who's gonna help me do X?" etc. It's like they just expect it.

However, I have been playing MMO's for 9 years. I don't expect help from people, and I take every measure possible to learn as much as I can about my job, and if I can't solo something at my current level, I will simply wait until I get high enough to solo it myself. I like to believe I don't follow the new person stereotype, I have asked for help one time since I started playing, and that was when I was running my Mule to Jeuno, and I made my HP in Meripherated (Sp?) Mountains, and I couldn't get past this damn Skink in the Sauromugue Champaign, and kept dying, and I was stuck in the middle of no where, so I asked for an escort to Jeuno.

I will also probably be forced to ask for help for my Limit Breaks, because I've been told that even as a Pup I will be unable to solo them, which really annoys me, because asking for help is one of my least favorite things to do.

I'm just trying to show you that all new people aren't these helpless idiots that don't know how to do anything for themselves.

I've unlocked every job myself, well except Samurai and Ninja I guess, but I didn't ask for help, someone was helping a LS member do it so I just tagged along. But I unlocked Sch, Bst, Dnc, Pup, Blu, Drk, and one other by myself.

However, I am still 1-2 in Nation missions, because I raged when the guide told me to go click on the ??? in the Kings Tomb, and when I did, it teleported me to some random place where I was instantly one shot by a Bat. Now I'm too angry to try that nation mission again :b lol.

I've read every guide on Pup's, though a lot of it doesn't seem to add up to how my automaton acts, so I'm kind of making up some of it as I go along, and a lot of the guides are outdated, which sucks, but yeah.

Finally, I didn't get my sub job till I was a 37 monk, because I didn't want to ask for help killing a Bogy.

So, please, don't lump all new players into the "clueless morons with no idea what they're doing." I skill chain, I magic burst, and I rage when people just randomly blow their WS without announcing their TP and thus giving no opportunity for anyone to chain with them.

(:

Bravo man, you're way ahead of the majority of people on this game! TP Burn party? NO THANKS lol.

[GERM]

Quote Originally Posted by Todo View Post
Well since all of you are just commenting on how you help new players, I thought I would give you a perspective from an actual new player.

My free trial started on January 3rd. So I'm two months into this game.

You all comment on how easy it is to make money, but honestly, in every other MMO I've played I've hit the money cap, or been extremely close, and in this game I have had nothing but problems making money. I don't know if you are in denial, but the economy is seemingly dead in this game. FFXIAH, for my server at least, rates an item selling "Very Fast" as 10-12 stacks a day. That, to me, is not very fast. Things take at last 2-3 days to sell, and when you can only have 7 items up at a time, it's EXTREMELY frustrating.

Many of you say that new players just ask for help constantly, and don't learn to play their class. I would have to agree with you in most cases that this is true. My LS that I'm in has new people join constantly, and they are always like "So who wants to come PL my party?" "Who's gonna help me do X?" etc. It's like they just expect it.

However, I have been playing MMO's for 9 years. I don't expect help from people, and I take every measure possible to learn as much as I can about my job, and if I can't solo something at my current level, I will simply wait until I get high enough to solo it myself. I like to believe I don't follow the new person stereotype, I have asked for help one time since I started playing, and that was when I was running my Mule to Jeuno, and I made my HP in Meripherated (Sp?) Mountains, and I couldn't get past this damn Skink in the Sauromugue Champaign, and kept dying, and I was stuck in the middle of no where, so I asked for an escort to Jeuno.

I will also probably be forced to ask for help for my Limit Breaks, because I've been told that even as a Pup I will be unable to solo them, which really annoys me, because asking for help is one of my least favorite things to do.

I'm just trying to show you that all new people aren't these helpless idiots that don't know how to do anything for themselves.

I've unlocked every job myself, well except Samurai and Ninja I guess, but I didn't ask for help, someone was helping a LS member do it so I just tagged along. But I unlocked Sch, Bst, Dnc, Pup, Blu, Drk, and one other by myself.

However, I am still 1-2 in Nation missions, because I raged when the guide told me to go click on the ??? in the Kings Tomb, and when I did, it teleported me to some random place where I was instantly one shot by a Bat. Now I'm too angry to try that nation mission again :b lol.

I've read every guide on Pup's, though a lot of it doesn't seem to add up to how my automaton acts, so I'm kind of making up some of it as I go along, and a lot of the guides are outdated, which sucks, but yeah.

Finally, I didn't get my sub job till I was a 37 monk, because I didn't want to ask for help killing a Bogy.

So, please, don't lump all new players into the "clueless morons with no idea what they're doing." I skill chain, I magic burst, and I rage when people just randomly blow their WS without announcing their TP and thus giving no opportunity for anyone to chain with them.

(:

Hate to break it to you but SqEnix developed this game around a party system.. They are working on some of that in the end game but up til then you will need help on occasion as your aware of.. This doesn't mean you have to ask for help this just means you ask for people who need the same quest/mission/bcnm whatever as you do.. that way your not bothering people to help you and your getting it done with others that need it too.. Then again you will find some very lazy people in this game who don't want to play like you and want to get PL all the time, sit and leech in abyssea or just find a high level job that they can have do their dirty work..
The gil (currency) system isn't going to be easily capped in this game. I don't know how many people have capped the gil in this game I know its not a lot though, not saying its not possible and im sure people have obtained that amount in their adventuring life but just hoarding it isn't something you see very often.. This game was designed so you have to work to gain gil weather its via end game or crafting gil making off of actual mob isn't really easy and kinda of annoying with the low gil rate from most mobs... good luck and good journey