[DEVS] Briarius Helms, sobek Skins and various other Abyssea NM drops

[Khajit]

It didn't work, they would have read the threads anyway. Just because a staff member posted in your thread, it doesn't mean they did because you put [DEVS] in it.

I have gotten staff responses to threads, and I didn't need to shout out to the staff.

Top 5 posts on the dev tracker. [to the devs] on the lot of them.

[Annahya]

People are actually complaining that emps are too hard now?

Personally, I was not speaking to difficulty at all. I think this is a common misconception running rampant through these forums; when someone raises a concern, the masses rush to this "difficulty" straw-man.

It is impossible to make "challenging" gameplay in an MMO like FFXI. There are only two possibilities in a game where actions are based on math and dice rolls.

A. The players figure out a strategy that wins 100%. Everyone then use that Strategy and only that strategy.

B. The mob is just flat out impossible (e.g. Absolute Virtue when the cap was lvl 75)

This is incorrect in many ways. There are plenty of instances where the "perfect" strategy does not ensure 100% victory, and to blame/credit all resolution on/to math and dice ignores that many of instances that these factors govern must be initiated by a human being. Additionally, it makes little sense to argue that something can be achieved 100% of the time, and in the same thought express that randomness (ie. dice) is of mention.

[Atomic_Skull]

This is incorrect in many ways. There are plenty of instances where the "perfect" strategy does not ensure 100% victory, and to blame/credit all resolution on/to math and dice ignores that many of instances that these factors govern must be initiated by a human being. Additionally, it makes little sense to argue that something can be achieved 100% of the time

Well then we can add a third category.

C. Whether you win or not is based on what the mob does or does not do (e.g. uses some huge nasty attack too many times) and it's luck whether you win or not.

I've never seen that though, generally when people wipe to an NM it's because either they lacked certain gears or atmas or didn't have good enough teamwork. Neither of those things involve "challenge" however.

[Annahya]

I've never seen that though, generally when people wipe to an NM it's because either they lacked certain gears or atmas or didn't have good enough teamwork. Neither of those things involve "challenge" however.

Is not the need for this teamwork not capable of being the challenge in question? Your position seems to make profound assumptions regarding the norm of performance, and what constitutes a challenge.

[Bumbeen]

He used the wrong word. Shouldn't be teamwork. Change "didn't have good enough teamwork." to "because they were morons". If you can operate a toaster, you can play FFXI and beat everything that can actually be beaten. The only thing in this game that's ever been a challenge, is when half your group disconnects but you still go on to win anyway with a gimped setup and a by the seat-of-your-pants strategy to facilitate the situation.

Edit: You can add new lowmans in there too, but of course that isn't a challenge created by SE. If you can add more players to beat something, then it isn't challenging by virtue of design.

[JiltedValkyrie]

Nooo. No more bandwagon ninjas!

[Drhatchet]

I think Briareus Helms should drop off any Gigas at a low drop rate and Sobek Skins off any Bugards.

I hope to god you are being sarcastic.

As far as bria and sobek, both are SOLOABLE by a semi-copetent nin/dnc (I know a full pink nin who did it).

The only hard nms, out of all of them, are glavoid and the Khimy nm in the range whose name escapes me.

For building sets, the only sets that take longer than 30 min to build are Chloris and Glavoid. All other sets can be made stupidly fast by two people (dd tank + healer) or is soloable by half the non-mage jobs in the game (and even they can solo a good number of them).

All of the Scars nms are stupidly fast to build and kill with the exception of Bhukis (he just likes to be mean from time to time D

I personally am building Verethragna, and yeah, building Chloris sucks, especially since I didn't have WAR leveled until recently, nor do I have NIN leveled higher than sub, but I can solo the sets on one job or another.




tl;dr versoin:
Quit whining and go build it.

[Sparthos]

I hope to god you are being sarcastic.

Said I was, yerp.

[Khajit]

Said I was, yerp.

No you weren't. Dont be so modest about your groundbreaking ideas. Do not let those Pecky Fraulein stand in your way!

[Atomic_Skull]

The only hard nms, out of all of them, are glavoid and the Khimy nm in the range whose name escapes me.

Glavoid is not hard, Glavoid is ridiculously easy. The only way Glavoid could possibly be hard is if you weren't paying attention and kept healing it.

Bukhis *can* be hard if someone misses a stun and it wipes your cruor buffs or if you get unlucky and can't remove doom in time. However that's just having a crappy stunner for the former and blind luck for the latter.