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  1. #81
    Player Chaani's Avatar
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    This argument seems to be popping up all over the place on these official forums, I am starting to become confused as to why. Abyssea changed nothing in terms of the average player base. I must have been playing a different game pre-Abyssea because I can recall specific player names and instances of just complete awfulness. Players that would "AFK" for 10 minutes in a 6 person party, mages in two mage parties leaning on the other mage to do all the curing so they could "skill-up" enfeebling. Rangers in the mid 60s using beetle arrows or bronze bolts, I could keep listing examples over my eight year tenure playing this game.

    Why are a few of you letting nostalgia cloud your memory of this, these people that don't respect their fellow players' time and effort have existed in this game since the beginning. It's infuriating, but it isn't caused, created nor exacerbated by Abyssea. These players took advantage of others in 6 person parties, and now they do it in 18 person alliances. Like I have said in another thread on this same subject, the largest part of skill in this game is simply paying attention as a player, either the player is or isn't, the venue doesn't matter.
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  2. #82
    Player chubrocka's Avatar
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    PUP Lv 90
    Next will be open PvP server choices and then FFXI will be called FFXI the WoW years!!!!
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  3. #83
    Player Drivont's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaht View Post
    Umm.... umad?

    HAHAHAHAHAHA ^
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystal View Post
    well at least your post contributed SOMETHING even though i don't like it...>.>; but still you make valid points. FFXI is dying and still is...but the fact remains is i'd rather IF is does die...to go in the way i remember it..not some level 90 noob fest filled crap game....
    Let's get real here, shall we? Should there have been a level 30 limit to enter Abyssea? No. Level 30s do not belong in Abyssea. But what's done is done, and the fact is this: You backtrack now and take it away so people can't leech, and you will doom the game to it's death as people will sooner retire than go back to grinding for weeks to attain the level required to enter Abyssea, or they just won't level new jobs period. Either way it won't matter.

    Good players will grind out their skilling up sessions post experience as they have always done. Those that don't will continue to not do the same because and I quote, "it's no fun." This game doesn't have the numbers anymore to justify the old ways. SE has to work on keeping us around more so than time sinking us. Different strategies for the same goal: keep us paying and playing.

    The only thing Abyssea has done as far as gimping players are concerned, is that it exposes them on a much larger scale when there are 18 person alliances for exp PT and end game content can be done with pick up alliances. That's it. It's the same gimps as before. Abyssea didn't suddenly turn everyone else that weren't already gimps into gimps. Either you care or you don't. No change SE will ever do will change that.
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    Player Ragmar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarsamar View Post
    I know that you're being painfully sarcastic right now, but to be honest, this one particular item was how things should have been done from day one of augmenting.
    I totally agree, maybe not like exact numbers but certainly some kind of influence, there should have been a lot more control in this much. Honestly it's why I bring it up. For years we get things like this that fail beyond measure update after update. I was just trying to point out the massive imballance between aspects of the game in this new abyssea era.

    I have keyed 2 jobs 41-75 and will key my remaining jobs 45-75 if my only other option is to solo. I shouldnt have to. I should not have been forced to play one of two ways. Solo or Abyssea Leech. Thats all this game has to offer 30-75 right now. When MNK dinged 75 I capped h2h obtained my nyzul and WSNM WS's and thanked god for atma so I didnt have to open boxes for a few hours and call that exping.

    I enjoyed the old leveling system, though I would have enjoyed it more with the current exp rate outside of abyssea, level sync made it possible to exp any time you wanted to. All it required was a basic understanding of party set up and not having been a tool your entire FFXI career so that you had a few friends around who would enjoy spending a few hours partying with you even if they didnt "need" the exp.

    All in all though I believe the game is completely out of balance right now. I honestly would not be suprised to see updates much like I mentioned because they are prefectly on par with the level progression of this game. Leveling is part of the balance. Just like SE never inteded for the average player to obtain 10 relics they never intended for the average player to level every job/craft and obtian the rarest gear in the game. Since they have some aspect painfully easy now (leveling/gear) why not the others? It seems to me that is the direction we're moving. I dont see how being able to level a craft by simply afking in the respective guild is any different then leeching exp. Either way you're progressing in game without doing anything.
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  6. #86
    Player Alkalinehoe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystal View Post
    . i am a hardcore player .
    Oshit, he's hardcore.
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    Player Krystal's Avatar
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe View Post
    Oshit, he's hardcore.
    not to poke at the little things but omg....read profiles! good fricking lord! i'm female ya twits!>.< men today...no brains....just egos....>.>;
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    Player Fiarlia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystal View Post
    not to poke at the little things but omg....read profiles! good fricking lord! i'm female ya twits!>.< men today...no brains....just egos....>.>;
    .....Seriously?

    Your profile has no listed gender.
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  9. #89
    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Naturebeckles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiarlia View Post
    .....Seriously?

    Your profile has no listed gender.
    Good call Fiarlia.... LOL
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Player Fiarlia's Avatar
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    I mean, it was quite obvious from their post's content and attitude that they certainly were not a hardcore player like they claim to be, but this is just hilarious.

    Absolutely hilarious.
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