Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

[Alhanelem]

BRD gets three times as much accuracy in gear as other mage jobs

Because you really need that much accuracy...

Also, 2H weapons offer slightly better accuracy and attack due to the 2H weapon STR bonus.

A BRD with daggers is like a DNC without any of the offensive-boosting abilities like saber dance and the tier 2/3 flourishes; and DNC DMG is already pretty low. I'm more than confident that if I'm in a party on SMN and a BRD starts meleeing, that I will outparse them in total damage (meaning all damage from all sources the jobs are capable of)

Regardless, by all means keep having a DD epeen contest when t hat's not what the thread is really about.

[Dallas]

Yes it is, Al. If mages should melee, the big 3 staves have utility, and an entire forum (BG) would have to shut down.

[Alhanelem]

BG should shut down regardless of anything that goes on in this thread or forum in general.

[Dallas]

That makes 2 things we agree about publicly. Careful!

[Azagthoth]

Oh yes, BG should shut down since they're the only ones that disagree with you; I guess you're just angry that there are people out there that understand how the game works, which prevents you from being anymore than a laughing stock in most groups if you even suggest meleeing.

[Korpg]

Oooh, is exp still an issue on your planet? On my planet, I throw on reraise, and in the unlikely event I die, I will play as effective as the gimps while weakened.

How can you play as effective? You still have to melee to keep MP up even while weakened, and 100 HP is not going to last you at all while you try to melee. Any AoE TP move or poison/DoT AoE move WILL kill you, and then you will have to reraise yourself again and wait another 5 minutes. Your avatar will not be able to stay out at all because of all the mp used to keep RR up while you wait a good 10 seconds between swings to get MP back up, only to die again because you are too pigheaded to realize when to back off.

Unless you can say for a fact that while weakened, you can maintain the type of damage you are doing without using any MP at all?

[Leonlionheart]

Actually when you don't have A-~+ skill accuracy can still be an issue, specially for those jobs that lack accuracy in AF3 gear. I severely doubt that outside of Abyssea (on new content) SMN has over 80% accuracy without using heavy accuracy Sushi like Sole and Squid.

lol BG haters... BG has done more for FFXI than any other community website could hope to do.

You hate because you have no reason.

If we're going back to talking about OP: Yes, relic and Empyrean staves have next to no utility for practical reasons. Mythic Staff for SMN rocks, beyond all other mage mythics (aside from yagrush). However the other two mythics are meh. Inventory +5 for them though, assuming you don't mind doing less damage on BLM, and always keeping the correct weather on SCH.

[Korpg]

I hate BG also, but for different reasons, but I won't deny that they have helped this game a lot more than hurt it.

Also, Mythic SMN staff does wonders for both melee, BP, and just standing there and letting the avatar do the work.

It would have more use for a melee SMN than an Emp staff would, because not only would your aftermaths help you, you don't have to wait for 300% TP to use them either. Lets not forget that it also benefits the avatar too, but Dallas might not like that at all.

[Leonlionheart]

I hate BG also, but for different reasons, but I won't deny that they have helped this game a lot more than hurt it.

Also, Mythic SMN staff does wonders for both melee, BP, and just standing there and letting the avatar do the work.

It would have more use for a melee SMN than an Emp staff would, because not only would your aftermaths help you, you don't have to wait for 300% TP to use them either. Lets not forget that it also benefits the avatar too, but Dallas might not like that at all.

100% aftermath = accuracy bonus
200% = accuracy and attack
300% = acc, att, and oa2

You'd have to parse it but waiting for 300% might benefit you more, assuming that Ao2 goes to avatar too.

[Korpg]

100% aftermath = accuracy bonus
200% = accuracy and attack
300% = acc, att, and oa2

You'd have to parse it but waiting for 300% might benefit you more, assuming that Ao2 goes to avatar too.

Wait, I thought its 100% accuracy, 200% attack, and 300% oa2 separated instead of all together like you stated.