Anonymous kicking in LSes: Please fix this.

[Greatguardian]

sometimes the ls leader is clueless as to who is doing the kicking. So it isnt good enough to say they can be desacked at any time. And being reinvited to the LS is not a good solution either because it'll just happen again that's why I made this suggestion. This way the person at fault can be disciplined swiftly and can't create a problem any longer than necessary.

Social problem, not gameplay problem. I realize 90% of the FFXI population has an IQ less than potato, but I do not feel that is justification enough to dismiss the exponentially easier solution of playing with people with basic social skills.

I've been in large social shells. I've run large social shells, for years back in the day. I've seen exactly what you're talking about, more times than I care to remember. But it was never a problem with the system. It was a problem with people. And you can't fix people.

[Arlan]

I'd be more worried about why the player was booted and not the who done it. Unless the LS leader/sack holders are legitimately jerks, There are reasons why people get kicked in the first place.

If no one is fessing up to you, or you don't have a clue as to why it happen, I'd count my blessings that i'm not with that shell anymore and move on.

Such a convenient excuse to not promote such a wonderful idea that the OP has presented.

Also

@ Raxiaz: I think it be even better if it says it in LS chat log as well so the whole entire LS would know who kicked who in case of this harassment occurs.

~.^

[Reiterpallasch]

And this might surprise some of you guys but the lsleader can remove sacks from people

So when someone randomly gets kicked and you have no idea who did it, who's sack do you remove?

[Greatguardian]

If you can't figure out who did it, best remove all of them because you have really terrible taste in sackholders.

[Unleashhell]

Well at least we know who constantly gets kicked from linkshells lol. Obviously the people defending this OP are those people. Seriously though, why would you want to be in a linkshell that you are getting harassed in? If you get kicked so what, move on. What do you honestly think it will do if the entire LS knows who kicked who? You're still kicked, end of story. Stop being a cry baby and get over it.

It all goes back to the linkshell leader, if the leader can't find out form their own sack holders who kicked someone there is a very simple solution, and that's desack everyone. It all goes back to the leader no matter how you put it. It is up to the leader to find out who is kicking people. Not to mention it is the leaders fault for giving someone a sack to begin with. If it is some random ex-sack holder kicking people and the leader cant find out who it is because they put on the Linkshell, kick someone, then change linkshells, they can remake a Linkshell very easily. Take it up with the linkshell leader instead of crying about being kicked from a linkshell on forums. If you have to cry about it on public forums like this, most likely your a crybaby in the game also, which leads me to believe you got kicked for that reason.

[Reiterpallasch]

Well at least we know who constantly gets kicked from linkshells lol. Obviously the people defending this OP are those people.

Or the people defending the OP just happen to agree with him and think it's unfair for shit like this to happen.

Seriously though, why would you want to be in a linkshell that you are getting harassed in? If you get kicked so what, move on. What do you honestly think it will do if the entire LS knows who kicked who? You're still kicked, end of story. Stop being a cry baby and get over it.

Uh, I think it will allow the ls to know who the dbag is who is kicking random people so they can get rid of him instead? Wow, that was a tough one.

If you have to cry about it on public forums like this, most likely your a crybaby in the game also, which leads me to believe you got kicked for that reason.

The OP made a valid suggestion that would be an improvement over the current system. The only one crying here is you, with your "WAAAAH don't waste valuable dev time!". I'm pretty sure if they decided they wanted to add something like this, they could get it done without setting back any of the "important" stuff people want by any significant amount of time.

[Kimble]

Are people really have that big of a problem with randomly being kicked form linkshells? lol

[Eeek]

Are people really have that big of a problem with randomly being kicked form linkshells? lol

Lol, apparently so. I honestly didn't expect this thread to exceed 2 pages.

[Misi]

Such a convenient excuse to not promote such a wonderful idea that the OP has presented.

Right. Let us say LS members had a vote about getting rid of a player in the shell? should the person who did the initial kick be the person to be blamed for it? that is why it is anon. Unless you are in a crappy LS, important decisions like this are not made by one person. Chances are the person who was kicked was not liked by a few people in the shell, So one person should not be labeled as the jerk for the kicking. But hey if blaming one person makes you feel better, That is what it'll come down to.

[Raxiaz]

sometimes the ls leader is clueless as to who is doing the kicking. So it isnt good enough to say they can be desacked at any time. And being reinvited to the LS is not a good solution either because it'll just happen again that's why I made this suggestion. This way the person at fault can be disciplined swiftly and can't create a problem any longer than necessary.