blood boon

[Byrth]

Heyo, Soundwave! What is your name on BG? I'd like to PM you about your Blood Boon testing, as I'm about to start on a massive Summoning magic skillup campaign and would like to see if I can contribute anything on the way.

I'm intending to approach it the same way that I approached Conserve MP testing, but it'll likely be a little harder to parse out.

[Dallas]

If you want to parse it, just spam Aero 2 in a L1 zone.

[Soundwave]

Heyo, Soundwave! What is your name on BG? I'd like to PM you about your Blood Boon testing, as I'm about to start on a massive Summoning magic skillup campaign and would like to see if I can contribute anything on the way.

I'm intending to approach it the same way that I approached Conserve MP testing, but it'll likely be a little harder to parse out.

Sent you a PM

[Suljin]

To make sure we on the same page know that...

-Augment Blood Boon Proc rate = 5.16% (This is only AF3 Gear that effect Augment Blood Boon THIS DOES NOT HELP WITH SAVE MP)
Job Trait Blood Boon Proc rate = 47.74% (This is gear outside AF3 THIS DOES NOT HELP WITH AUGMENT BLOOD BOON.)
**Job Trait Blood Boon stacks with Non AF3 Gear**

They do not work in correlation with each other
Blood Boon Augment is only for damage
Blood Boon is only for saving a % of MP based of a chance of a % to proc.



Each +X Blood Boon is 1.8% Proc Rate for saving MP I would say use your best judgment on when you want to deal a bit more damage or to save more mp but I feel that between how much MP you save vs how much damage is somewhat on a equal plane.

I use

Full AF3
Soulscourge
Diabolos Rope (I would use caller sash but don't have yet.)
callers earring
Gifted earring
Tiresias' Cape
Eidolon pendant

I don't see where you get this, when I did the test when blood boon first came out I mirrored it to conserve mps, with an inherant % of 25, and any + gear gave +X %. With the spats that I got the day after the update and my test, it showed a 26% proc rate (with +3 blood boon). Sample size was only 50 mobs but 26 is closer to the estimated 28 than what you're claiming should be 1.8 x 3 = 5.4 +25 = 30.

[Dekusuta]

If Soundwave is correct and the Damage modifier does not stack with the Blood Boon trait, why is it even called Augment blood boon?

What is the relationship between the AF3 Augment Blood Boon and Blood Bood Trait and gear that enhances it?

The one explanation I've read that made the most sense was the 'Augment Blood Boon' was meant to imply there's a chance MP saved is transfered into a damage bonus.

So that there's actually an incentive and synergy between Blood Boon the trait and gear that add to this and Augment Blood Boon (the set bonus). The more pieces mean more chances of increased damage when blood boon procs.

Treating MP savings and Damage bonus separately seems to not make sense to me, and it is possibly why soundwave's numbers seem arbitrary.

[Neisan_Quetz]

If Soundwave is correct and the Damage modifier does not stack with the Blood Boon trait, why is it even called Augment blood boon?

To answer this, War set bonus appears to function in a similar way, in the sense it procs outside of the normal trait or +trait gear.

Inf ohere (also mentions summoner's set bonus as being similar): http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103...=1#post4662203

[Sargent]

Good testing, however a new question needs to be addressed. And that is how much Pet:Attack+ or MAB+ in gear would it take to deal more damage over time than AF3+2.

Bearing in mind only Caller's Doublet enhances damage directly (Spats for Magical provided your pet isn't sitting on 250+ TP), there are now so many more options to Blood Pact in thanks to the Abjuration revamp.

For instance (ignoring body options since Caller's Doublet +2 beats other options):
Physical Pacts:
Head: Karura Hachigane (Garuda only)
Hands: Evoker's Gages (Leviathan only)
Legs: Tatsumaki Sitagoromo (Atk+7), Shadow/Valkyrie's Trews (Atk+3~12, Crit Rate+1~3)
Feet: Summoner's Pigaches (+2s have Crit Rate +5 as well), Koschei Crackows

Magical Pacts:
Head: Shadow/Valkyrie's Hat (MAB+1~4), Summoner's Horn +2 (MAB+4)
Hands: Shadow/Valkryie's Cuffs (MAB+1~5)
Feet: Zenith Pumps/+1 (MAB+1~5)

Personally, I BP in a Mix and Match set, I see my Blood Pacts do a noticable amount more than Summoner's in the same party who use full AF3(outside Abyssea, so not comparing with Atmas). My instinct tells me that a Mix and Match set would be better, but would like to see some actual math on this.

[Neisan_Quetz]

If the set bonus works like War's (separate function of blood Boon with low rate of activation) then it is probably not worth using full set for Bloodpacts pretty much ever.