ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[Bumbeen]

Obviously your point is that people don't set their characters to the job they are actually playing. When one goes to events, one goes on the job one does not play. When one logs off, one always switch to a random unused job. When one runs around town, one uses a random job they don't play. Typically, it's the least useful and least leveled job one takes around the world where mobs might aggro. Certainly not one that would be leveled, geared, macroed and skilled.

Which is correct. Why do you think most people are on whm, rdm, blm, thf? Utility. Why do I even have to explain this? teles, warps, flee, w legs, gaiters, trotter boots.

You are unsuccessfully trying to shoot down my argument which you didn't even get right in the first place.
I said that relic adjustments are not a priority for the dev team, and I gave a reason for that: That a very low % of the player population have relics.

I did not say I think the developers should ignore relic weapons, I do not think they should, but I understand why they might ignore them. So I don't know why you're trying to tell me that I think the opposite.

If you are going to try to prove me wrong, you should be arguing that relic adjustments are a high priority for the developers, since my assertion and reason for that assertion argue that they are not.

3) See also the census by SE on jobs. Not a guess. A fact. It says that 10 jobs are each less than 3% of the total. it says that 5 jobs are less than 2% of the total. Please argue that those 5-10 jobs should ask for zero improvements or corrections in their jobs or just drop your argument.

It says these are the % of jobs that were set by characters when the census was taken. It does not mean that only 3% of the players have a bard.

Did someone hijack your keyboard?

[Didgist]

Thank you for your suggestion although there is a difference between complaining and crying. If you are not interested in contributing ideas to relic and mythic adjustments or supporting concerns then please do not go off topic.

I am contributing. There are players who spent 2 years+ partying long hours for Maat Cap only to have it trumped situationally and on top of that exp gain has been made easier and easier. Mindless grinding for months on end were spent simply capping merits on all jobs or farming gil for a top tier gear set that is now worthless.

Thinking that relics and mythics need to be buffed to a point where it goes beyond being a luxury item and breaks the game is only going to bring back heavy RMT and hacking, something this game has been plauged with until Empyreans were introduced. If you want real rewards that last for making a contribution then go get a career or a masters degree. Making mythics and relics over the top will only bring trash back to this game that i'm sure all players are happy to be done with.

No one cares or should ever care that much about what you did on the internet, get over it.

[Azagthoth]

You are crying and whining though Kiba. You're crying for an answer, as to when the updates will occur, etc. And, most of all you're crying because your respective relic/s aren't on top anymore.

Don't pretend you're on a mission to fix them when you wouldn't have an issue if they just buffed your weapon/s or if your weapon/s were the only ones out of the group still on top.

I'm all for relics/mythics getting buffed, but I wish they could disclude all the players with entitlement issues from the buff.

[Unctgtg]

People will never learn.

TO SE FIX THEM

[Didgist]

You are crying and whining though Kiba. You're crying for an answer, as to when the updates will occur, etc. And, most of all you're crying because your respective relic/s aren't on top anymore.

Don't pretend you're on a mission to fix them when you wouldn't have an issue if they just buffed your weapon/s or if your weapon/s were the only ones out of the group still on top.

I'm all for relics/mythics getting buffed, but I wish they could disclude all the players with entitlement issues from the buff.

AF2 should be superior to AF3 etc.

[Kiba]

No one cares or should ever care that much about what you did on the internet, get over it.

Look who's talking.

[Kiba]

You are crying and whining though Kiba. You're crying for an answer, as to when the updates will occur, etc. And, most of all you're crying because your respective relic/s aren't on top anymore.

Don't pretend you're on a mission to fix them when you wouldn't have an issue if they just buffed your weapon/s or if your weapon/s were the only ones out of the group still on top.

I'm all for relics/mythics getting buffed, but I wish they could disclude all the players with entitlement issues from the buff.

Wow you seem to know me very well, did we go to school together? If you review my previous posts I have no intention of expecting relics on top. It is the current state of balance which is unacceptable. Entitlement? As I also mentioned the says all ends all is in the hands of the development team. On a player standpoint getting a relic or mythic is not necessarily to be "better than others". The weapons can influence how you play a job which was the prime benefit. But since standards have changed this enjoyment using these have went downhill and is why this was addressed and the development team recognized in March the issue, that adjustments will be made.

It gets tiring constantly mention to not go off topic as while complaining about lack of followup, there is still contesting of decision to make adjustments when the March announcement was made.

[Didgist]

On a player standpoint getting a relic or mythic is not necessarily to be "better than others". The weapons can influence how you play a job which was the prime benefit.

Maybe they will get the idea. Me being a relic own since 2006 and being on top of the DD world, 2 nerfs to my relic, and now being completely pushed to the bottom of the barrel sucks lol.

The thing I don't get is that if these weapons are so easy to make, why not just make one? You're dedicated to having everything at your disposal to influence your job yet a week or two of work is not worth your time? I don't see Caladbolg Dark Knights draining over 1k HP when they weaponskill, Ochain Paladins being almost completely immune to magic, and Armageddon Rangers spamming hate free weapon skills. Relics still influence the jobs as effectively as they had previously, and the whole outcry is from people like Unc who thought they should be on top for something that required even less knowledge of the game as Abyssea requires. If I had a 1 gil for every time a relic holder said their WS was a multihit I would just buy one.

Kiba you can dress up this argument all you want, accomplishments are transient. Good on you, Square-Enix.

[Unctgtg]

The thing I don't get is that if these weapons are so easy to make, why not just make one? You're dedicated to having everything at your disposal to influence your job yet a week or two of work is not worth your time? I don't see Caladbolg Dark Knights draining over 1k HP when they weaponskill, Ochain Paladins being almost completely immune to magic, and Armageddon Rangers spamming hate free weapon skills. Relics still influence the jobs as effectively as they had previously, and the whole outcry is from people like Unc who thought they should be on top for something that required even less knowledge of the game as Abyssea requires. If I had a 1 gil for every time a relic holder said their WS was a multihit I would just buy one.

Kiba you can dress up this argument all you want, accomplishments are transient. Good on you, Square-Enix.

No you still just don't get it, us relic/mythic owners are saying the amount of time we put into something should easily make them on top. SE stated they have no interest in lowering currency requirements for final stages, and honestly why would I try for a emp when I put nearly 2 years of my life into my relic. I feel cheated.

[Kimble]

Put in 3 days for a better weapon > ??? > Profit!