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  1. #81
    Player Return1's Avatar
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    I'm sorry, but who dies in abyssea when serious? Usng a Taru to tank is no different than using a galka. They don't die unless the WHM went afk to play with cats o something.

    Also, outside of abyssea, Taru tanks could have the advantage of a lower Earthen Armor/Scherzo proc number.


    People keep complaining about abyssea as if it will matter after 9 more levels of old content revival and new events.
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  2. #82
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    I have never had an issue with hp...I like pokin' fun at my HP as a taru, but in spite of my HP I'm better at survival overall than a lot of other ppl that have more hp....the actual number of your HP means so much less than your skill
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    Love life, dare to dream, and LIVE ON PURPOSE!
    Also make sure to beat up any evil elvaans along the way, as we all know tarus are the ultimate race.

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubeeky View Post
    I have never had an issue with hp...I like pokin' fun at my HP as a taru, but in spite of my HP I'm better at survival overall than a lot of other ppl that have more hp....the actual number of your HP means so much less than your skill
    You've never had a situation where you would have lived had you had more HP?
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumbeen View Post
    You've never had a situation where you would have lived had you had more HP?
    well.. duh... anyone would survive longer if they had the hp.

    The point is more that skill/knowledge of gameplay/gear/merit/food/atma/etc. allows you to mitigate a large portion of it.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    well.. duh... anyone would survive longer if they had the hp.

    The point is more that skill/knowledge of gameplay/gear/merit/food/atma/etc. allows you to mitigate a large portion of it.
    And my point is that max HP still matters no matter your skill/gear/merit/food/atma
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumbeen View Post
    And my point is that max HP still matters no matter your skill/gear/merit/food/atma
    But what's the point in having 5k HP when you never go below 3k HP when tanking?
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    If you're getting nuked for 1600 dmg and you only have 1300 hp...because your whm is too lazy to keep shell up, thats not your racial HP's fault. Shell5 (Unmerited I believe) should cut 1600 down to 1200, equipping basic DT- gear like Twilight Torque should drop that down an extra 60 dmg (not sure if DT comes before or after MDB from shell).

    And if somethings going to 1shot you, its going to 1shot you...deal with it lol.


    and wtf at the guy asking for everyone to have 5k hp to survive everything. Seriously? Seriously....why not give everyone a permanent blink of death trait or whatever, that modifies anything that reduces your HP past 0, leaves you with 1 hp!
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    Last edited by Nynja; 06-07-2011 at 12:17 PM.

  8. #88
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    Play XIV. Choose your stats. For now...
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    But what's the point in having 5k HP when you never go below 3k HP when tanking?
    I was saying that just because skill matters more than how much HP you have, does not mean that your HP is not significant.

    People say "as taru you have to use skill and gear to make up for the lower hp". But you can just as easily use the same skill and gear on a galka which means you aren't making up for anything, it's still a disadvantage that cannot be overcome via skill, gear, merits, atma, etc.
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    Part of that knowledge/skill is knowing your limitations and developing a better strategy. In other words, if a target is capable of one-shotting you, let someone else take the beating. My poor Galka BST friend and his pets are forever getting smacked around while my squishy mage stays at the edge of casting range.
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