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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
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    I hate to be pedantic (ok so I don't), but learn what D.O.T stands for!

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    So... your base delay is first reduced by Delay reduction gear or Dual Wield/Martial Arts. This value is used to calculate TP gain. Then Haste is applied, and the new value is used as your attack speed (delay/60 = time in seconds between attacks).
    So using this formula, can a 2H user (aside from drk during last resort) reach the 80%?

    (1-[10% Hasso + 3% Sword Grip])*(1 - 76.5 haste) = 0.20445

    OK, it's close, but not quite there. Bolter's roll would need to be added with anything but a 9 (unlucky roll) for 2%+.

    I don't see any other weapon delay gear on wiki, but there is probably some that isn't linked to the delay page. Not sure if SAM gets any bonus to hasso for extra weapon delay-, but I'm mainly interested for my WAR anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    I hate to be pedantic (ok so I don't), but learn what D.O.T stands for!



    So using this formula, can a 2H user (aside from drk during last resort) reach the 80%?

    (1-[10% Hasso + 3% Sword Grip])*(1 - 76.5 haste) = 0.20445

    OK, it's close, but not quite there. Bolter's roll would need to be added with anything but a 9 (unlucky roll) for 2%+.

    I don't see any other weapon delay gear on wiki, but there is probably some that isn't linked to the delay page. Not sure if SAM gets any bonus to hasso for extra weapon delay-, but I'm mainly interested for my WAR anyway.

    hasso is ja haste it is not DR (hasso doesn't affect tp/hit)

    and can still add blitzer roll for more DR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    I hate to be pedantic (ok so I don't), but learn what D.O.T stands for!
    Dot is damage over time baby

    So using this formula, can a 2H user (aside from drk during last resort) reach the 80%?
    (1-[10% Hasso + 3% Sword Grip])*(1 - 76.5 haste) = 0.20445
    facepalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Dot is damage over time baby
    That's the point. You said DoT over time. Unless you're referring to the derivative of DoT, you were being redundant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    That's the point. You said DoT over time. Unless you're referring to the derivative of DoT, you were being redundant.
    Precisely^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    facepalm
    Fun idea, instead of replying and offering nothing and just trying to put people down, why don't you try being useful, and correct the errors you see. Or is that to hard for you? Or are you just afraid you'll get told how wrong you are, again, like every other time you do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Fun idea, instead of replying and offering nothing and just trying to put people down, why don't you try being useful, and correct the errors you see. Or is that to hard for you? Or are you just afraid you'll get told how wrong you are, again, like every other time you do it.
    How about you correct it yourself, since you troll in every page of this thread, I think you could do it? Or maybe you just have no idea what youre talking about? hint: read the wiki, very well explained over there.


    The OP should be modified and include two facts:

    - 50% haste is not 2x damage, 80% haste is not 5x damage. Why? because there is a (huge) delay after every job ability and weapon skills you use ( 2seconds+); this is not modified by haste, and your idle time is all the more important that you have high haste. 2 second delay when you take 8 second to get 100 TP ( SAM) means you're idle 20% of the time for example.


    - a very important part of multihits from double/triple/etc attacks does not contribute to WS frequency. 80% DA would be +80% melee dmg but certainly not +80% WS damage. more like 60%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    How about you correct it yourself, since you troll in every page of this thread, I think you could do it? Or maybe you just have no idea what youre talking about? hint: read the wiki, very well explained over there.
    It was already corrected or I would of done it, maybe you should try reading the thread instead of making sock puppet accounts pchan.

    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    So mele damage over time over time?
    lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    (sword strap testing is) Somewhere on BG (maybe i think i saw it this one time over there in that place you know the one ya there with that thing by that guy who said it and was right and stuff)
    My searching didn't find it, maybe you could post a link? Or just say it hasn't been tested, either way.
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