First of all, I wanted to thank everyone

[Hoshi]

I don't understand how the thread went off topic, then again, I didn't have the privilege of seeing the posts that got deleted.

Either way, I see the answer as being "NO, WE AREN'T PLANNING TO CHANGE THE WAY THE CLAIM SYSTEM WORKS, ***".

I saw most of the deleted posts... it was mostly Luch and Bigboy trading insults with Kya throwing in something unintelligible every so often. The course of discussion of the thread had migrated away from talking about the claim system to accusations on botting and terribad playing. Not sure how Chocobits's posts got deleted though, they weren't in violation of the forums I think.

[Psxpert2011]

SO COOL, MY FIRST MULTI-QUOTE POST ^_^:

I don't understand the point of this.

Me neither.

He's raging because the thread that was horribly derailed was locked and sees it as proof that the dev team supports stealing mobs. Contrary to popular belief, forum moderators are not members of the dev team and they don't speak for them.

True, when a thread derails onto more ludicrous topics that have nothing to do... well, smart posters have to post smart and try to comment towards the topic before it fuels fire to comedy feud.

If someone messed about with a mob for upto an hour making me wait then tried to zombie it I'm taking it and killing it asap with no procs or anything just to destroy it infront of them.

I don't do it often cause I usually offer to help but sometimes it's nice to have the option if people deserve it. Thats the point of a community, be nice or be bad? If they sterilise the game too much they will remove any and all personality that made/makes it great.

Hey, there you go! Strategy in claiming is what I call it. There's more than one way to win a battle and part of it is looking for it. I think the PVP aspect is shining through claiming competition these days and players/ adventurers need to be good at both winning and loosing.

[Alhanelem]

But i'm not raging. Just seems a bit silly. We should at least deserve an answer form the dev team, even if they don't want to touch the issue with a 10 foot pole.

And what will you do if you don't get the answer you're looking for?

The GMs have established time and time again that any mob that is yellow is legal for the taking. It's up to the players to sort out these differences. Now, I'm not saying that no adjustments could be made (e.g. to conditions under which mob turns yellow) but only that the rules address this type of situation.

Whoops, I probably just started it up again.

[Habiki]

I think the developers are on the side of not changing the claim system since they completly edited one of lutschs posts leaving only -

its not "stealing" when the mob is white. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

This is post #170 page 17, funny how they took everything out, but this one line at the end of his post when normally they would remove the whole thing.

[Kya]

i am happy that they did that cuz it was pointless Thread

[Leonlionheart]

I think the developers are on the side of not changing the claim system since they completly edited on of lutschs posts leaving only -

its not "stealing" when the mob is white. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

This is post #170 page 17, funny how they took everything out, but this one line at the end of his post when normally they would remove the whole thing.

I think SE gets that the people crying about this- the last standing checkpoint of some type of skill in this game- just suck and are noobs.

[Chikamatsu]

They don't need to 'fix' it, it's not an issue if you're smart about how you do things, eg. Don't cluster on a mob that does AoE Charm, unless you know how to prevent it from charming you. (And yes, there is a way on mobs such as Cirein-Croin, you've just gotta figure it out for yourselves.)

[Tensa]

Chika, people don't wanna figure it out. People want it handed to them in a note or in a gamer guide. No one wants to take the time and figure it out anymore. They don't wanna lose the xp it takes to figure out how to do things correctly because they NEVER get the chance to pt. If you never get the chance to xp on your job, then you should know how not to DIE on it. Watching people fight a mob might just give you a hint on how to fight it, and who knows...you may see it go white and well...you know what to do when that happens. :P

[Azucares]

I love seeing mobs go white with about 1% hp left on them because it's like opening a present at Christmas time. As a child it didn't matter if my behavior was good or bad I still got rewarded. In this case it's better than Christmas because I get to help punish people who can't maintain claim on the mobs they fight.

[Babekeke]

I love seeing mobs go white with about 1% hp left on them because it's like opening a present at Christmas time. As a child it didn't matter if my behavior was good or bad I still got rewarded. In this case it's better than Christmas because I get to help punish people who can't maintain claim on the mobs they fight.

Just goes to show that spoiling a child will leave them without morals, and likely without friends, when they're older.