ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[Sparthos]

Bow is debatable. Ranger is w/e atm.

You get a superior WS on Gandiva but it's superiority and RNGs lack of survivability means you'll likely be eating floor reducing your DPS to tatters. Great for making fireworks though.

Yoichi gets a beefed up Namas which isn't quite Jishnu's but delays your inevitable trip to the ground. Obviously using Barrage can be a quick death sentence but in terms of complementing RNG, the relic options are superior to the Empyreans.

H2H, Katana and Gaxe are better examples of weapons where the Emps totally trash the Relics on all fronts.

[DrStrangelove]

Bow is debatable. Ranger is w/e atm.

You get a superior WS on Gandiva but it's superiority and RNGs lack of survivability means you'll likely be eating floor reducing your DPS to tatters. Great for making fireworks though.

Yoichi gets a beefed up Namas which isn't quite Jishnu's but delays your inevitable trip to the ground. Obviously using Barrage can be a quick death sentence but in terms of complementing RNG, the relic options are superior to the Empyreans.

H2H, Katana and Gaxe are better examples of weapons where the Emps totally trash the Relics on all fronts.

I really agree with most of what you say here, but because rng shoots so slowly, and because many mobs have damage reductions, there are many mobs where rngs pulling hate does not occur because melee are not just doing 2k WS, but also hammering out rapid crits.

At that point, you are comparing roughly a 2,000 Jishnu (5,25 ftp with DD aftermath) to a 1,200 Namas (2.75 ftp+bonus). The advantage for Yoichi when neither rng pulls hate is gone.