Cataclysm Farming

[Korpg]

If you're trying to insinuate that MNK is unable to get TP fast enough to properly AoE, I'm afraid you're pretty far off base.

With a staff?

[Greatguardian]

With a staff?

Ignoring Kick Attacks and thus AF3+2 set bonus activation, Staff gets TP faster than H2H. Real talk.

[Korpg]

Ignoring Kick Attacks and thus AF3+2 set bonus activation, Staff gets TP faster than H2H. Real talk.

I never knew that.

I thought the delay reduction from Martial Arts would create the inverse of your statement. Guess not.

[Greatguardian]

I never knew that.

I thought the delay reduction from Martial Arts would create the inverse of your statement. Guess not.

Martial Arts causes MNK to hit more often in the same amount of time, dealing more damage. But it decreases TP gain proportional to the increase in number of swings, so it's not really increasing WS frequency unless you hit a lucky x-hit step. Mnk subs Sam when cleaving, so the 10% JA Haste from Hasso puts Staff TP gain solidly ahead.

I completely forgot WAR can use Cata though <_< mah bad.

[rog]

Martial Arts causes MNK to hit more often in the same amount of time, dealing more damage. But it decreases TP gain proportional to the increase in number of swings, so it's not really increasing WS frequency unless you hit a lucky x-hit step.

Tp does not scale linearly with delay. Come on, you should know this.

[Greatguardian]

Tp does not scale linearly with delay. Come on, you should know this.

Yes yes, true enough. Realistically though we're just comparing a Delay: 356 Pluto's staff to a Delay: 331 pair of Verethragna, which was my point. H2H really isn't getting a massive TP gain increase over Staff, and most certainly not because of Martial Arts. The sweet spot for high TP/Delay ratio is 480-530. Mnk would effectively gain TP faster without martial arts at all (though it would do significantly less damage).