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    Player rog's Avatar
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    Sounds like the problem is retards selling things on the AH when they could get more gil from an npc.
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    Leave the item price be. Isn't RMT reasonably contained? Especially seeing as how the game is so rare/ex based these days, as opposed to AH based.
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    I don't think RMT would be overly interested in this method of making gil, it's rather slow compared to farming gil inside abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoshi View Post
    I don't think RMT would be overly interested in this method of making gil, it's rather slow compared to farming gil inside abyssea.
    As long as it makes more than the $12.95/month it costs to have an account active and botting the AH, it does not really matter if it is slow.
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    The bigger problem is something like this can potentially be automated, and probably is with things configured to never pay over X amount for a given item.

    Perhaps the larger problem when NPC prices are too high is when there are things people can actually use, like spell scrolls, that get NPC'd instead of AH'd. One might argue if a market was flooded enough for that to happen, then the desired scroll(s) would certainly show up, but if it becomes common enough knowledge that vendoring them is more profitable, or you get a select few scarfing them up every time they're under the ceiling value for profit, that scroll may as well not exist since it's creating an artificial demand on a potentially otherwise balanced resource.

    Either way, not a whole lot SE can do about this without putting in some kind of account cap system, and that'd just piss people off if it's too intrusive. Sure, you could slash NPC prices, but if people won't AH a scroll for 5k, they certainly won't do it for 1k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Sounds like the problem is retards selling things on the AH when they could get more gil from an npc.
    This is the only answer.

    You people need to stop chuggin' the Haterade in here!

    I Know this sounds like the "Mean" answer, but really, Blame the suppliers selling for less than NPC price. This is a problem with players, not the game. this requires no fix except maybe an I.Q Check for putting things on the auction house :|.

    Want an Easy fix to this exploit? Sell for higher than the NPC price! I don't see a reason SE Waste production time altering NPC prices when the players can fix this problem themselves...
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 05-29-2011 at 09:34 AM.

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    When I have something to sell I always check the NPC price first. Sometimes, if it seems like something that a real player(as opposed to an AH bot/mule) needs, I'll put it up for a little more than the NPC price+taxes. 90% of the times that I do that, that item comes back to me.

    So yeah, sometimes people buying things to NPC is the only reason you see any movement on an item at all.
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    I check AH then NPC price, if the npc price is higher then the AH and i can make more then 1000k I go back and buy all thats in stock as long as I can make a profit. Lets not kid our selfs here RMT have long since moved on FF11 no longer provides much profit. They may well still be out there but really only really new players would buy gil just starting out and really how many are out there.
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    I used to buy underpriced stuff on the AH and NPC it. It is a legitimate way of making money... and honestly the profit to time ratio is probably not high enough for RMT to bother with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriha View Post
    Perhaps the larger problem when NPC prices are too high is when there are things people can actually use, like spell scrolls, that get NPC'd instead of AH'd. One might argue if a market was flooded enough for that to happen, then the desired scroll(s) would certainly show up, but if it becomes common enough knowledge that vendoring them is more profitable, or you get a select few scarfing them up every time they're under the ceiling value for profit, that scroll may as well not exist since it's creating an artificial demand on a potentially otherwise balanced resource.
    Actually I'd like to put out the argument that if more people were actually buying these the price at the AH would have been higher. Its a small small small handful of folks that catch the stuff worth buying to run to NPC.

    People have gotten stuck in a "if I list it lower it will sell faster!" mentality that isn't true when your the worlds only supply on AH. Kinda funny. And sad ._.
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