Expansions and Beating Dead Horses

[MrWigglles]

One of the issues SE laid forth in thier aprehention of implementing any new expansions is our favorite "dead horse," the Play Station 2. True, on the American side, this would be a bigger issue due to Sony NA's general lazzyness/want of/lack of desire to allow their long term devotees to have a backwards compatable system.
But SE needs to just let go of the PS2 in this issue. It's an outdate concept to try to hold onto it. It would be "simple," although a logistical nightmare, to retool the game so that even people without one of those rare backward compatable PS2s could load and play the game on all PS3s. Yes I realize that this result in losing players in the imediate, but you have to concider that the continued lack of content/expansions will eventualy result in the loss of the game. You do also have to take into account the number of players that the new PS3 market will generate offsetting what you'll lose int he PS2 market.

There is a free download on PSN that allows you to install the PS2 version of FFXI on any PS3.

[bungiefan]

There is a free download on PSN that allows you to install the PS2 version of FFXI on any PS3.

No, it doesn't enable PS2 games on any PS3, or even FFXI on any PS3. It's a patch for the PS2-compatible models so that they properly emulate the Sony proprietary firmware of the PS2 HDD, so that PS2 games with HDD support can detect the PS3's HDD.

thay can start supporting the newers consoles, and pc and left ps2 back, eventually those players (including me) will migrate to the other sistems, i have pc and ps2 version, i use ps2 above pc because i like the ps2 controller, but if it is stoping me from getting better improvements on gameplay im more than willing to stop using my console and start using the pc again

You can get a USB adapter or PS2-style controller for the PC. It has supported those since the launch of the PC version. It's just like how you can use the keyboard on a PS2. All control options are available on all platforms.

The advantage the PS2 has is not having an OS and support programs running behind the game that can make the system crash, and not having to worry about hardware drivers. I've had so many issues with FFXI after version updates on PC that make me have to spend a few days troubleshooting to get the game working again. WotG's release broke the game with my old graphics card (Radeon 9800 Pro), and dropped the frame rate on my PC from 27-30 FPS to 3-10 FPS in all areas. My PS2 version still ran just fine. I tried 5 different driver versions, and ended up having to switch to an nVidia card to make the PC version run again at full speed so I could actually use my White Mage in LS events if my PS2 was in use by a roommate.

I never have to troubleshoot the game console, but the PC is always asking for it with something.

[Neofire]

No, it doesn't enable PS2 games on any PS3, or even FFXI on any PS3. It's a patch for the PS2-compatible models so that they properly emulate the Sony proprietary firmware of the PS2 HDD, so that PS2 games with HDD support can detect the PS3's HDD.



You can get a USB adapter or PS2-style controller for the PC. It has supported those since the launch of the PC version. It's just like how you can use the keyboard on a PS2. All control options are available on all platforms.

The advantage the PS2 has is not having an OS and support programs running behind the game that can make the system crash, and not having to worry about hardware drivers. I've had so many issues with FFXI after version updates on PC that make me have to spend a few days troubleshooting to get the game working again. WotG's release broke the game with my old graphics card (Radeon 9800 Pro), and dropped the frame rate on my PC from 27-30 FPS to 3-10 FPS in all areas. My PS2 version still ran just fine. I tried 5 different driver versions, and ended up having to switch to an nVidia card to make the PC version run again at full speed so I could actually use my White Mage in LS events if my PS2 was in use by a roommate.

I never have to troubleshoot the game console, but the PC is always asking for it with something.

I hear ya, I like playing on my tv and not a monitor and as you said having to worry about my pc crashing due to some stupid bug in the version update. Bottom line is SE isn't going to remove support for the platform that helped make ff11 last as long as it had.

[MrWigglles]

No, it doesn't enable PS2 games on any PS3, or even FFXI on any PS3. It's a patch for the PS2-compatible models so that they properly emulate the Sony proprietary firmware of the PS2 HDD, so that PS2 games with HDD support can detect the PS3's HDD.
You can get a USB adapter or PS2-style controller for the PC. It has supported those since the launch of the PC version. It's just like how you can use the keyboard on a PS2. All control options are available on all platforms.
The advantage the PS2 has is not having an OS and support programs running behind the game that can make the system crash, and not having to worry about hardware drivers. I've had so many issues with FFXI after version updates on PC that make me have to spend a few days troubleshooting to get the game working again. WotG's release broke the game with my old graphics card (Radeon 9800 Pro), and dropped the frame rate on my PC from 27-30 FPS to 3-10 FPS in all areas. My PS2 version still ran just fine. I tried 5 different driver versions, and ended up having to switch to an nVidia card to make the PC version run again at full speed so I could actually use my White Mage in LS events if my PS2 was in use by a roommate.
I never have to troubleshoot the game console, but the PC is always asking for it with something.

Get a Xbox 360 and HDTV. FFXI looks pretty good @720P and you wont have tech. issues.