Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Panthera]

@Panthera: Good luck trying to get any point across. It's quite obvious that it's impossible to have a mature debate with anyone here.

I think that's completely true of some, not completely true of some, and not at all of others.

Some write or think poorly, are rude. Some just repeat themselves without adding anything new. Some won't address valid points because they don't have an arguement. Some just want attention. Or all of the above. What particularly tickles me is that some that argue for leeching because it's not against TOS are trolling, which is against forum rules.

Some may only have a brief verbal mistep, but don't continue when asked to stop.

Some write quite well, have points with some validity. There was a good point about Exp scrolls, as just but one example.

I honestly think some may not actually care if it is cheating at all, with the recognition and agreeance that leeching is everything I assert it be; they just don't care. They get their levels at the consequence of their own conscience, because it is, afterall is said and done, only a game. They do what they know is wrong, and do it anyway because it benefits them; it does more good for them to cheat than play honestly, that they may feel a little bad about it is just a trade off.

To convince them is not the only goal. Some mind may be in fact be changed. Some silent, undecided may have gone one way or the other, or decided that both sides have points, so they are both right, and wrong. But just because you may or may not have convinced them does not mean you haven't won the arguement.

To the other side's credit, I think saying that there's no one with whom to have a mature discussion--as an absolute, is exaggerating, my friend. If you feel someone has something new and worthwhile to reply to, don't let trolls stop you from doing so. But just put trolls on the ignore list where they belong. I have.

picking and pointing at your minor inconsistencies until it drives you mad.

Such as? I think I've been very, very consistent, and I've added new arguements when possible. I'd like to think my arguement as evolved over time, becoming more specific and more clear, if I may say so.